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Comment by Napoleon Bonaparte on February 7, 2013 at 5:22pm
Comment by Joseph P on January 24, 2013 at 6:15pm

... hate, ostracize, monger-war, dominate, exploit, and exclude do not engender honor

You're referring to Fox News with all of that, right?

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 24, 2013 at 5:52pm

Left-wing, right-wing, the key word is church. 

Those who hate, ostracize, monger-war, dominate, exploit, and exclude do not engender honor.

Comment by Joseph P on January 24, 2013 at 5:11pm

Speaking of Fred Phelps's clan, did you know that:

 

Conservative bikers turned out yesterday to protect Newtown mourners from Democrat Fred Phelps and his Westboro cult from protesting.

From http://nation.foxnews.com/connecticut-elementary-school-shooting/20...

You didn't know that the Westboro Baptist Church was a left-wing cult, did you?

Comment by Joseph P on January 24, 2013 at 5:07pm

Its premise is over-exaggerated, even if it wasn't horribly flawed.  And its premise is simplistic and flawed, in its treatment of the factors that contribute to intelligence.

You can translate the metaphor into other areas, though.

A more serious issue is the spread of memes, with nut-jobs like the Duggars pumping out 19 kids and passing on their fucked-up, fundie-Christian memes to their children.  On our side, we have people like TNT666 not having any children, when I think she'd do a much better job of raising contributing members of society, were she so inclined.

The bright point in that is that we're siphoning off members of the religious community, into our number.  The internet and the increased spread of scientific information is helping with that.  We've got almost no attrition due to children from secular families becoming religious, later in life, since religiosity requires childhood indoctrination, which they're not getting.

Hell, we've got at least one of the Phelps clan who's gone secular, so maybe we can pick off a couple of the Duggar children, if they ever receive sufficient outside education ... although, I admit that's doubtful, considering that they're all home-schooled.

All that aside, Idiocracy is a fairly amusing movie.  I wouldn't put it on any list of greats, but it's worth watching.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 24, 2013 at 12:05pm

Joan, thanks for the Big Think article.  I'm not familiar with that site, but have added it to my Bookmarks.

Joseph, I've not seen Idiocracy.  It has a very good premise, but sounds like it beats you over the head with it's moral.  What did you think of it?

Comment by Joseph P on January 23, 2013 at 6:06pm

Something similar to the premise of Idiocracy, in other words.

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 23, 2013 at 5:32pm
Science writer Matt Ridley and Douglas Kenrick, worry that reproductive patterns favor greater population growth among those “…who harness the human capacity for superstition and panic.” In essence, the dumb, who can’t reason as well, are outbreeding the smart, threatening “…the triumph of faith over reason.”
http://bigthink.com/risk-reason-and-reality/edge-big-thinkers-miss-...
Comment by Joan Denoo on January 20, 2013 at 11:49pm
Madhukar, I have been reading your writings and I highly recommend them for a good solid background on atheism and its roots. Your quotes accurately reflect the authors' intent, and your organization makes reading flow ... indeed you are creating a "page turner".
Comment by Joan Denoo on January 18, 2013 at 11:34pm
 

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