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Comment by God on January 19, 2009 at 1:33am
I am not a troll, and the mere suggestion of such is deeply hurtful to Me, who have sacrificed so much of Myself for all of you.

If you knew Me you would love Me!
(goes into corner of Heaven to weep uncontrollably)
Comment by Leslee Love on January 18, 2009 at 11:16pm
Can we please get over this troll (A troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response or disrupt conversation) crap. This is not the intent of this mature, intellectual, and brilliant group. God is simply being God. I believe Dr. Meaden should be the one to handle this, if he sees so inclined to do so, after all it is his group.
Comment by Leslee Love on January 18, 2009 at 11:06pm
yea, I'm not an internet deprived atheist...
Comment by Leslee Love on January 17, 2009 at 8:13am
I agree with Susan.
Comment by Marc Draco on January 17, 2009 at 7:58am
There's a very fine line between being funny and not. Playing "God" in a discussion where it's not clear you're roll-playing crosses that line and becomes trollish. Moreover, my original point (and I believe Dr. Meaden concurs) is that apparently clever little put-downs - such as God is an atheist - are actually counter-productive.

We could however have a fascinating discussion on just that issue though. Let's suspend atheism for a moment and assume for that Yawn does exist. Who is to say that it does not presume to be the highest power? If we are, as the argument goe, brains in jars then the demons controlling us may themselves believe in a power that created them...

Ach. Now I'm trolling.
Comment by Susan LaCroix on January 17, 2009 at 7:49am
If you read his member page, you'll see that he's using his humor to point out the flaws in religion, not to encourage it. BTW, is his website. I think it's hysterically funny, you should check it out.

Everything doesn't have to be so serious all of the time. Some of the discussions here can get intense at times and could use a bit of levity to remind us that we're here because we have at least one thing in common, athiesm. Some of us just express our thoughts on the subject in different forms because we all have unique, (and sometimes quirky), personalities. Let's try to enjoy each others company and not rush to judgement so quickly:)
Comment by Marc Draco on January 17, 2009 at 6:11am
I can see that - but I rather think that whoever is posting here as God is trolling - or exhibiting troll-like behaviour. I can't fault your description of Yawn Yahweh.
Comment by Richard Healy on January 17, 2009 at 6:07am
Marc, I don't think God is a troll.

If it's the same person, then they run the sometimes funny but always wickedly sarcastic, "Stuff God hates" blog. Their persona is the god straight out of the old testament. Sometimes it's not enough to tell theists that god is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully" - sometimes you have to show them.
Comment by Marc Draco on January 17, 2009 at 5:36am
I don't see the point in engaging with them, Dr Meaden. The easiest thing to do with Trolls is ignore them.
Comment by God on January 16, 2009 at 9:21pm
I don't make anyone atheist. I would never. That's just plain dumb.

I also cannot be an atheist. That is also completely asinine.

Idiots desperately need to feel like they are clever.

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