ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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Comment by Marc Draco on August 29, 2009 at 2:47pm
Oh noooo....

What really depresses me is when religious people mock educated people like this (and get away with it):

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/willheaven/100007783/the-creationist-zoo-how-humanists-are-turning-into-thought-police/

Worse, the comments include a LOT of religious freaks coming out with crap like, the eye is something that disproves evolution.

See post: Bry St Ives on Aug 28th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

I ask you! I know this is a free country, but I'm amazed and depressed that no one has commented at how stupid such remarks are not challenged. Eyevolution (arhum!) has been well demonstrated - and even shown in various stages of evolution in the natural world. Why is it that people who want to challenge science, have absolutely NO clue of the underlying science and parrot (oft without counter-challenge) the ID movement's boilerplate. The latest vitriol is now to call us Thought Police and I fear that we're heading toward an "idiocracy".

Sometimes I welcome the idea of death. At least it won't be a problem for me any longer.
Comment by OutlawGirl on August 22, 2009 at 9:00pm
I reviewed Expelled for my college newspaper having never heard of ID. By the end of the film I was amazed at how little I'd learned about the "ID movement" and wrote in my review that the film dodged the subject a lot and used shady tactics to get its message across. Since then, this has become typical of my experiance with IDiots and creationists. If there is a hell, Ben Stein's going there for being a liar. ;)
Comment by Scott on August 15, 2009 at 8:43pm
Just a random thought. Isn't it funny that the vast majority of people who went to see the movie "expelled" also think that the maker (Ben Stein) is going to hell because he is no a Christian. Is that irony? I would love to hear Ben's reaction to someone asking him about this.
Comment by Johnny on August 8, 2009 at 4:18am
Yes. Thanx for the response.

I guess I have been using a more general defn of evolution. Not sure when I broadened it - perhaps during my extensive readings on emergence and self-organizing systems. I tend to believe in a reductionist view of everything, and blur the human abstraction layers we have imposed on science into a continuum.
Comment by Johnny on August 8, 2009 at 2:13am
Thanx for your response Robert. I am referring to the video posted below that specifically goes out of it's way to make the separation... perhaps they are referring to the specific Theory of Evolution by Natural (biological) Selection vs. a more general definition of evolution.
Comment by Robert Tobin on August 8, 2009 at 12:20am
Well Johnny I suppose the people who think evolotion has nothing to do with the origin of life are those with no school science education, who have had their brains fried out with the Holey" Bible not realising it is the worst book of fiction ever written. It also includes Roman Catholics who are not allowed to question or think for themselves. They must swallow all the bullshit the church tells them with questioning. That is especially now that Pope "Bean-a-Dick" is in charge. He does not like science.
Comment by Johnny on August 7, 2009 at 11:20pm
Can someone please explain to me how evolution has "nothing to do with the origin of life? I thought Dawkins has made this quite clear.
Comment by Jared Lardo on July 11, 2009 at 1:53pm
Yeah, it's the fourth movement of Beethoven's 9th, and the ending's cut off.
Comment by Michelle on July 10, 2009 at 11:27am
Luke: Beethoven's 9th, unless I'm incorrect, but It may have been the actual end, I'm having a hard time finding a better recording.
Comment by Luke on July 10, 2009 at 1:03am
@Michell: Could you give me the name of the recording, please?
 

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