ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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Comment by Joseph P on September 15, 2013 at 10:17am

Shaun, one person saying "Nuh uh," does not make a controversy.  The creationists use the same crap.  Show me scientists who study the subject and really know what they're talking about.  Convince them and get them to construct an alternate model, and then you might have your controversy.  Until then, not so much.

Comment by Dorian Moises Mattar on September 15, 2013 at 2:13am

I just want to know how people can knowingly live a lie.

I guess it's like alcoholics, as long as they feel good...

Comment by Chad Kreutzer on September 15, 2013 at 1:57am

In my opinion, it is that they ARE decided and their misunderstanding is willful.

Comment by Robert Lanktree on September 15, 2013 at 1:32am

I don't see how these groups of undecided/misunderstanding people can debate things proven and happening right before our eyes, like for example, lately rattlesnakes have been found not to rattle, or at least a great many don't. Darwinian evolution suggested the survival of the fittest and the fittest rattlesnakes are those that don't rattle, thus preventing themselves from attention and likely death. Darwinian evolution is so brilliant and yet so simple it boggles the mind how so many just don't get it.

Comment by Chad Kreutzer on September 14, 2013 at 10:38pm
No, you can't obtain acknowledgement of that from me. Science isn't a popularity contest. Those who find it implausible mearly lack understanding of it, perhaps there was a ball dropped educationally, but I think the fault is more on religions shoulders. I couldn't find with googling your source on those numbers, but I did find a 2012 Gallup pool which found 46% of Americans were biblical creationists, 32% were theistic evolutionists and only 15% accepted non-theistic evolution. I find the 32% somewhat encouraging, but even so. This is culture, not science. If 80% of Americans thought the world was flat and rode through the ether on the back of a giant turtle, that would not make the idea that the Earth is a spheroid floating in space controversial: it would just make them wrong.
Comment by Shaun Johnston on September 14, 2013 at 10:26pm

Clearly I'm unable to obtain acknowledgement that darwinism (which I elaborated as the modem synthesis) is thought implausible by  enough non creationists to make the subject of evolution controversial. So I am bowing out.

Comment by Dorian Moises Mattar on September 14, 2013 at 10:00pm

Shaun you are aware that you can't count on the opinion of an ignorant?

How much of the US population do you think are ignorant to biology?

Would you go to a barber for an opinion on a spinal cord injury?  I hope not.

Well guess what, we don't count on a hypothesis conjured up by none experts.

It's pointless.

Comment by Chad Kreutzer on September 14, 2013 at 9:36pm
Yeah, Susan, my "creationist" bells have been ringing about him for a while (for example, by and large only creationsists use Darwinism these days), but I'm trying to take him at his word.
Comment by Susan Stanko on September 14, 2013 at 9:26pm

Shaun keeps saying that Evolution is false but, he has yet to provide any evidence for it.  (And, no Shaun, the fact that we don't have perfect knowledge is not evidence.)  I think I have sort of an idea where he gets the idea that the majority don't think evolution happened through Darwinian means.  He read the Origin of the Species and thinks that is all we know about evolution.  He, like creationists, does not seem to understand that evolution has changed since Darwin first proposed it.

Comment by Chad Kreutzer on September 14, 2013 at 9:14pm
That's the problem Shaun. It DOES work. It works very well, in fact. Just look at modern medicine. And over and over, predictions made based on evolutionary theory are proven right and lead to more and more exciting discoveries! Heck, even that article Dorian sent me was made possible by evolutionary theory.

This "over half believe in non-supernatural means but only half in darwinian means" stat is new to me. What is your source?

Also, science does keep using a model as long as it keeps working until and unless something that works better comes along. But "working" does not mean "perfect."
 

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