ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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Comment by Steve Nelson on May 13, 2010 at 12:19pm
Hi Dr Meaden and everyone. Steve nelson here. I was handed the divorce papers from my former monster last week. So now I am available. Anybody have any good suggestions for me? I am here in Ogden, Utah. I would like a long lasting relationship this time with NO strings attached. I found that when the contract is signed, people change. I want no contracts now.
I rent a nice home in a safe neighborhood here in Ogden and would like a Lovely lady say between 25 & 40 to live with me and share utilities & rent. I need a Real Soul mate this time with No strings attached. Well maybe only one tinsy little one: Disease & Medical condition free would be it.
So any suggestions about free sites or places to post on or a Lovely lady you'all might know here in this area, please advise me. Thanks, Steve Nelson
Comment by Dr. Terence Meaden on May 13, 2010 at 12:01pm
Don is a good writer. We need him back here soon, even if he is only lurking while he gets on with his book.
I must agree though that my book on atheism is being severely held up because of the (admittedly useful) time I spend on Atheist Nexus. However, I also have lectures to prepare, so I cannot spend as much time as I would really wish on A/N.
Comment by Little Name Atheist on May 13, 2010 at 9:55am
I contacted him after he left. He told me he needs to focus on finishing his book.

Welcome to the group, disbelief.
Comment by disbelief on May 12, 2010 at 8:51pm
I've just joined this wonderful group!
Comment by Jim DePaulo on May 4, 2010 at 2:29pm
From what I heard he got pissed over a thread on faith and quit - all his comments on that thread are gone.
Comment by Susan Stanko on May 3, 2010 at 8:33am
I heard from him a few days ago on one of the threads. Other then that, no.
Comment by Little Name Atheist on May 3, 2010 at 7:40am
Does anyone know what happened to Don?
Comment by Robert Tobin on April 19, 2010 at 6:47pm
Here is a question to throw at those Christians:

If God made man in his own image, then has God got a dick. Has God got a belly button? If the answer is "Yes" then if God has a belly button, who was his mother and who was his father?
Comment by Steve Nelson on April 15, 2010 at 10:28pm
Howdy everyone: I have a NEW book that I just got from the printer. here is a few excerpts for you all to enjoy:

At the edge of the Galaxy a huge starship cruises serenly.
... Unaware of a dangerous unknown force that aproaches...it means harm!
WHAM! I was knocked out of my bunk! I hit the deck plate with a thud. ...I saw stars where they shouldn't be.
...Momentarily red emergency lights came on. ... I got to my hard shell exterior work suit in the nearby closet and struggled into it fast as I could. My head seemed sticky as I felt a painful spot there. Ouch! It hurt!!
...I saw in the mirror that I had a gash on my head that was slowly oozing some blood. I quickly but carefully sprayed some AntiBio on it and carefully but quickly extracted a padded bandage from the Medikit...
I put on the rest of my work gear...
I strapped the back pack on making sure the Biosensors were activated. ...
I was just about through & another WHAM! Resounded through the ship. The deck rocked and I was thrown against the wash basin. ...I held on as the ship rocked again with another Loud WHAM! "What is happening?" I called out to no one! It must be some kind of attack... I got on the wall mounted intercom & keyed for the Captain. No response! I tried the Ecec. No response! "I've got to get to my station on the bridge!"...I moved to the door & disengaged the locking mechanism. It should have come right open. NOTHING! ...I got out my special tool for stubborn doors, my utility hammer, and wrenched off the cover plate to the door electronics... I tripped the door mechanism & the door came open.... Red warning lights flashed at the end of the corridor next to the Personnel lift entry. ...a breach had occurred. I would have to climb if the Gravity liner in the tube was operating. If not, I would need to operate in Zero-G. ...
I reached the Personnel lift door... I hit the override, the door came open. The tube was empty. ... The tube was dark except for red Emergency lights... I gingerly reached over and took hold of the nearest service way rung. I held tight and stepped onto the srevice way ladder. I felt the lack of gravity Immediately!
I calmly sailed through the tube as red Emergency lights passed by slowly... I reached the entry to the Bridge Module. The door was solidly locked, it would not open.
I opened the control box mounted on the bulkhead next to the Personnel lift door. ... I activated the sensor viewer. There was air where I was but no gravity. But what was worse was what the screen showed on the other side of the bulkhead. The Entire Bridge module was GONE!
...Without the bridge controls the only way to operate the ship was at the Auxiliary Bridge near Engineering... "Well," I said to myself, "Guess where I'm going?"...
...I scanned the length of the ship as far as the viewer could go anyway. I saw more huge holes drilled right through our ship! My Beautiful Ship! "What has been done to My Beautiful Ship?" I wondered to myself. It looked like it had been hit with buckshot!...
I called again on my Wrist Com. No response from anyone. I went down the tube to connect with the Central passage...Emergency lights blurred past me as I sailed along effortlessly down the tube... my stomach turned as I went.
I thought to get something to settle my stomach when I reached the first working Gravity plate that I came to, along with something to eat.... Medical is just off the Central passage. I could stop & get something there. I couldn't wait!
Then I came to a complete stop as the tube was collapsed just short of the entry to Central. ...There apperaed to be no way through. ... I'd have to back up and find another way around. ...

SOON THE SHOOT'IN STARTS and those that attacked the ship will wish that they hadn't!
The MAINTENANCE ENGINEER will start cleaning!
***Get details at my nice site: tomorrowsworldscifi1.com
Comment by Joan Denoo on April 15, 2010 at 3:34pm
My cycle of life

My life is like a spiral that moved in a circular-linear direction from birth through death. Each stage has its function, its strengths and weaknesses and hazards.

1. To be
I have the power to be; I am. I have sensory organs held in place by my physical body.

2. To do
I have the power to do; to take action. My hands and body exist as tools to accomplish tasks such as eating, living, doing things.

3. To belong
I have the power to belong; to be a part of something greater than myself; I am part of my family, community, nation, world and I do not have to earn belonging, I simply belong.

4. To think
I have the power to think, reason, compare, contrast, contemplate, meditate, and communicate my thoughts to others in speech or the written word.

5. To transcend
I have the power to transcend, to go beyond expectation of others, to reach inside for knowledge and wisdom, to find the difference between right and wrong, good and bad, moral and immoral, ethical and unethical.

If I use the concept of the wheel, 1-4 are on the rim of the wheel, with #1. east; #2. South; #3 west; #4 north; and #5 the center of the wheel.

Put #1 and #3 (east and west) on a teeter totter with the fulcrum on #5. Imagine that the power to be, #1, represents my power to be and #3 represents the power of the other.

Self ______X_____Other.

Living life means learning and knowing about my own needs, wants and desires while learning and knowing the other’s needs, wants and desires. An infant at birth has only him/herself to consider, hunger, wet, cold, hot, all the senses inform the infant of his/her own needs. Growing, the child learns about “other”: not him/her self. Growing up, an adult learns how to live in balance, getting what he/she needs and considering the needs of others.

The magic occurs at the fulcrum, where you and I become “we.”

Returning to the wheel, place #2 and #4 (south and north) on a teeter totter with the fulcrum at #5. #2 represents the power to do, existing in balance with #4 the power to think. #5 represents “Praexis”, a term I learned from Liberation theology and represents the ability to act and think. Action with out thought can become chaos; thought without action can become impotence.

Action
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X
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Thought

Living life means thinking for oneself, taking in the ideas of others, exploring, experimenting, seeking from the internal wisdom core and then putting that information to work in service to meeting one’s own needs and respecting the needs of others.

Essence is a construct developed by human beings to explain the things they could not know. As knowledge, wisdom, and compassion grew, the “essence” became laws and rules and expectations. That power which keeps a body being, doing, belonging, thinking, and transcending is not the result of some plan by a higher power or “essence” but is of the natural evolution of nature. All the elements come into place as a process of nature.

A further reality emerges. Human beings now have the power to destroy life, as we know it. We have the equipment and knowledge to overcome those with whom we disagree. Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, on and on and one, now have the power of the gods and do so at their own peril. Such hubris can bring about the next mass extinction on earth.

We exist in today’s world on the cutting edge of human history when we are become as gods. We have the capacity to make choices, but, alas, the choices require the deep rethinking of our construct of god. The human construct that creates a notion of “essence” without the understanding that one person’s god can be as deadly as another’s.

I am; you are; we can learn to live together gratefully as equals on a planet that gives us everything we need to survive and thrive.
 

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