ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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Comment by Rick Springfield on September 8, 2014 at 7:03pm
Comment by Dr. Terence Meaden on September 8, 2014 at 6:25pm

Rick, that is indeed what some scientists are suggesting. 

I proposed the term infiniverse some years ago to meet this possibility. Once the concept of multiverse has been raised, I hardly see why the number of universes needs to be finite. It might just as well be infinite.  

Comment by Rick Springfield on September 8, 2014 at 6:16pm

ًwhat if there were multiverse and our universe is a baby universe and there were infinite numbers of universes of different dimensions  and ages, then "at the beginning" have no meaning..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse

Comment by Bryon on August 23, 2014 at 8:33pm

yeah... twas mostly a joke. with a little education mixed in.

 

Comment by Dr. Terence Meaden on August 23, 2014 at 2:44pm

God never said "Let there be light'.

He might have said, “div D = ρ, div B = 0, curl E = - ðB/ðt, curl H = J + ðD/ðt,”

and there was light.

See more in the A/N group Physicists.

The Bronze Age goat herders of the Middle East desert margins were not up to this when inventing their fictions.

Comment by Bryon on August 23, 2014 at 1:04pm
Comment by Bryon on August 23, 2014 at 12:55pm

If God did say let there be light he works really slow. When the universe had aged to 380,000 years, it had cooled to approximately 3000 K (5000 °F). Electrons no longer had enough energy to overcome the attractive force of atomic nuclei, and became bound to atoms. Light could now stream forth unimpeded. This process is called "recombination," and this "first light" is what we now see as Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation. Before 380,000 years photons could not move freely. Kind of like it is in the core of stars where it takes a millions of years for a photon to travel through to space. so day one to God is 380,000 years? 

Comment by Joseph P on August 23, 2014 at 10:23am

Yup, that's one of the things that you pick up from dealing with creationists a lot.  They abuse the hell out of the language and deliberately misrepresent things.  The best way to combat that is to be very precise with your own verbiage.  It's a habit you develop, after a while.

Comment by Joseph P on August 23, 2014 at 9:58am

Yeah, I vaguely remember that story.  Fun stuff.

I had to go to worse places, with that job.  There was one lady who was just up on the other side of the Appalachian Trail.  I was up in snake-handler territory on that run, literally.

It's amazing how far some people were willing to drive to work in the Winston-Salem office, and when they were looking for people to work from home, so they could close some of the offices, the people out in the middle of freaking nowhere were always the first to volunteer.

Comment by Joseph P on August 21, 2014 at 2:41pm

Oh, and welcome, neighbor.  I've been to King a few times.  We had a few work-from-home employees in King, when I was a field technician for Blue Cross Blue Shield.

 

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