ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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Comment by Alex Donovan on January 20, 2009 at 7:29am
" how do we deal with the large number of theoretical physicists who have arrived at the "strong" Anthropic Principle as a result of their scientific, not theological, research? "

Can you name some of these scientists, and what their claims are? Are you aware of what the Anthropic Principle REALLY states?
Comment by Tedster on January 20, 2009 at 12:25am
To yes, I agree. God didn't make me an atheist, he isn't around to do it. This gives to good conversation starters.
Comment by Marcus Tullius Cicero on January 19, 2009 at 7:35pm
A new thread to pursue in "Origins": how do we deal with the large number of theoretical physicists who have arrived at the "strong" Anthropic Principle as a result of their scientific, not theological, research? These are brilliant men, some of whom are Nobel Laureates. Others have said that if there is only one universe, not a multiverse, then a conscious fine-tuner is needed. Another has said that consciousness may be a fundamental component of the universe, that a conscious observer is necessary for it to exist.

Oh, the problems we have! Just wait until this hits the lay press!
Comment by Mario Romero on January 19, 2009 at 2:26pm
No! please, don't cry,,, last time it lasted for, like, 40 days and nights and we ended up with GOP and Billy O'Riley!
Comment by God on January 19, 2009 at 1:33am
I am not a troll, and the mere suggestion of such is deeply hurtful to Me, who have sacrificed so much of Myself for all of you.

If you knew Me you would love Me!
(goes into corner of Heaven to weep uncontrollably)
Comment by Leslee Love on January 18, 2009 at 11:16pm
Can we please get over this troll (A troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response or disrupt conversation) crap. This is not the intent of this mature, intellectual, and brilliant group. God is simply being God. I believe Dr. Meaden should be the one to handle this, if he sees so inclined to do so, after all it is his group.
Comment by Leslee Love on January 18, 2009 at 11:06pm
yea, I'm not an internet deprived atheist...
Comment by Leslee Love on January 17, 2009 at 8:13am
I agree with Susan.
Comment by Marc Draco on January 17, 2009 at 7:58am
There's a very fine line between being funny and not. Playing "God" in a discussion where it's not clear you're roll-playing crosses that line and becomes trollish. Moreover, my original point (and I believe Dr. Meaden concurs) is that apparently clever little put-downs - such as God is an atheist - are actually counter-productive.

We could however have a fascinating discussion on just that issue though. Let's suspend atheism for a moment and assume for that Yawn does exist. Who is to say that it does not presume to be the highest power? If we are, as the argument goe, brains in jars then the demons controlling us may themselves believe in a power that created them...

Ach. Now I'm trolling.
Comment by Susan LaCroix on January 17, 2009 at 7:49am
If you read his member page, you'll see that he's using his humor to point out the flaws in religion, not to encourage it. BTW, thingsgodhates.com is his website. I think it's hysterically funny, you should check it out.

Everything doesn't have to be so serious all of the time. Some of the discussions here can get intense at times and could use a bit of levity to remind us that we're here because we have at least one thing in common, athiesm. Some of us just express our thoughts on the subject in different forms because we all have unique, (and sometimes quirky), personalities. Let's try to enjoy each others company and not rush to judgement so quickly:)
 

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