ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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Comment by Dr. Terence Meaden on January 16, 2009 at 6:20pm
To Marc Draco
Of course yes, I agree with you. It was just that I was wanting to throw something simple and quick at the GOD fellow, below, as you saw. Cheers.
Comment by Marc Draco on January 16, 2009 at 5:54pm
"God is an atheist, since he does not believe in a higher power!"

There are so many things wrong with that argument - and I'm an atheist! Straw man applies I expect as will several others such as the Red Herring. My brain is addled though.

"God made me an atheist. Who are you to question his wisdom?”

This is just a non-sequitur.

Perhaps I'm being a pedant, but we should be careful to recite little quotes like this without actually following the logic (or lack of it). If we're going to pose flawed logic, beware of the intelligent theist who can see right through it.
Comment by Mario Romero on January 16, 2009 at 4:45pm
If there's one remark that I find somewhat anoying, is that: "Are you an atheist thaks to god?" I find particular weird that although it is repeated over and over again, every single time is treated as a new ans specially ingenuous joke, and just after it is said, the person starts laughing. Sometimes I retort with a quotation from the bible and add to the very end: yeah, you might say that.

Most of the times that same person remains silent. Not too often, but enough times to make my day :)
Comment by Dr. Terence Meaden on January 16, 2009 at 10:59am
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"God is an atheist, since he does not believe in a higher power!"

---an original post by AtheistAdvocate on Atheistweb on January 14th, 2009 at 1:59
Comment by Dr. Terence Meaden on January 15, 2009 at 6:25pm
"God made me an atheist. Who are you to question his wisdom?”

This is by an unknown author, and was re-posted on Wednesday, January 14th, 2009 on Atheistweb's "Quote of the Day. " q.v.
Comment by God on January 15, 2009 at 5:59pm
You should all give up atheism and love Me instead.
Comment by Richard Healy on January 12, 2009 at 10:59am
There's something wrong with the activity monitor for this group. IT keeps saying nonsensical readings, like a post made 16 seconds ago, when there's no recent activity.

I've tried emptying my browser cache in case that's where the error lay but to no avail so I suspect it might be a glitch in the servers.
Comment by Marc Draco on January 11, 2009 at 10:31am
"claiming that you could somehow snatch the software out of a computer into the air and it would still be able to run programs."

You mean you can't? My world is destroyed! ;-)
Comment by Dr. Terence Meaden on January 9, 2009 at 1:32pm
To Arshad, you are to be congratulated on your well-expressed writing in English and your accurate understanding of religion and the horrors it can and does commit. You are right to say that in the west holding discussions about atheism and theism can look like “a playful intellectual matter” in the sense that it is not dangerous to life; and to say, by contrast, that “when religion is politicized, it turns into a monster ... a direct threat to human civilization process”. One laments how this has come about, in which the brains of religious fanatics operate at such a low level of intelligence whether christian or muslim. And still worse, that Mohammed was likely no more than a smart epileptic, having visions during his fits of near-unconsciousness, and that he and his followers succeeded in fitting his narrow knowledge of a patriarchal desert world into a grander scheme that became a fighting desert religion.

You then say: “I salute to the Western thinkers who have given light to all human beings. The whole literature and whole knowledge is coming from West. It has been a question, how Western mind became curious, logical, pluralistic, and why so called "South" Third World remained intellectually primitive minded... While before few hundred years, Western nations were also in the same conditions.”

Yes, the evil establishments that were pope-led christianity and protestant christianity in medieval times suppressed independent thought for centuries, although gradually a few brave thinkers made breakthroughs. One of the turning points was the establishment of the Royal Society in Britain in the seventeenth century, supported by the curiosity of the king. Simultaneously, and earlier too, some great minds were at work in France, Germany and Italy, etc. Advances were being made in many sciences, but the church held firm against some sciences (medicine, cosmology, geology, ‘ORIGINS’ generally). There was no progress in the Muslim countries, for most Muslim states were theocratic states. I need not go on. You know the story well.

I end this brief note by appending a little good news, about the brave Taslima Nasreen. I expect you know this already.

"France comes to the rescue of Taslima Nasreen "

National Secular Society Honorary Associate Taslima Nasreen is to live in Paris, it has been reported. The Bangladeshi writer has been under threat of death from Islamist extremists who accuse her of blasphemy in her writings.

Municipal authorities in Paris will provide her with a large studio in an artists' residence in the French capital, and initially pay her rent. Nasreen, who was made an honorary citizen of Paris in July 2008, put in an application for housing six weeks ago.

"You are at home here, in the city where it was proclaimed that men are born and remain free and equal and nobody can be condemned for their beliefs," Paris Mayor Bertrand Delanoe said when she was given honorary citizenship.
Comment by Library Grape on January 6, 2009 at 3:32pm
glad to see a group here with such sharp commentary
 

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