ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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Comment by Dr. Terence Meaden on January 20, 2009 at 9:08am
http://www.atheistnexus.org/group/originsuniverselifehumankindanddarwin/forum/topics/2182797:Topic:110343

You can shift this discussion if you wish to another part of this group's discussion area as prompted by the Big Question, "What happened before the Big Bang?".
Although we can never know, we can try approaching possible answers through applying the known laws of physics. One possibility that I find attractive has been well discussed by Vic Stenger. I wrote a piece about this, and sent it to Vic Stenger for comment (with which he agreed). The URL is
http://www.atheistnexus.org/group/originsuniverselifehumankindanddarwin/forum/topics/2182797:Topic:110343

http://www.atheistnexus.org/group/originsuniverselifehumankindanddarwin/forum/topics/2182797:Topic:110343
Comment by Marcus Tullius Cicero on January 20, 2009 at 8:21am
Strong AP: the laws of physics are biased toward life or, as Dyson is reported to have once said, the universe was aware that we were coming.

Andrei Linde, recently. Brandon Carter, in the 70's. John Polkinghorne, recently. Steven Weinberg, Nobel Laureate. There are others.

When one discusses a theory or paradigm it does not necessarily mean he believes it to be true. It is a thought experiment. Relax, take off the boxing gloves, and join us in the land of cool cogitation.
(:
Comment by Alex Donovan on January 20, 2009 at 7:29am
" how do we deal with the large number of theoretical physicists who have arrived at the "strong" Anthropic Principle as a result of their scientific, not theological, research? "

Can you name some of these scientists, and what their claims are? Are you aware of what the Anthropic Principle REALLY states?
Comment by Tedster on January 20, 2009 at 12:25am
To yes, I agree. God didn't make me an atheist, he isn't around to do it. This gives to good conversation starters.
Comment by Marcus Tullius Cicero on January 19, 2009 at 7:35pm
A new thread to pursue in "Origins": how do we deal with the large number of theoretical physicists who have arrived at the "strong" Anthropic Principle as a result of their scientific, not theological, research? These are brilliant men, some of whom are Nobel Laureates. Others have said that if there is only one universe, not a multiverse, then a conscious fine-tuner is needed. Another has said that consciousness may be a fundamental component of the universe, that a conscious observer is necessary for it to exist.

Oh, the problems we have! Just wait until this hits the lay press!
Comment by Mario Romero on January 19, 2009 at 2:26pm
No! please, don't cry,,, last time it lasted for, like, 40 days and nights and we ended up with GOP and Billy O'Riley!
Comment by God on January 19, 2009 at 1:33am
I am not a troll, and the mere suggestion of such is deeply hurtful to Me, who have sacrificed so much of Myself for all of you.

If you knew Me you would love Me!
(goes into corner of Heaven to weep uncontrollably)
Comment by Leslee Love on January 18, 2009 at 11:16pm
Can we please get over this troll (A troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response or disrupt conversation) crap. This is not the intent of this mature, intellectual, and brilliant group. God is simply being God. I believe Dr. Meaden should be the one to handle this, if he sees so inclined to do so, after all it is his group.
Comment by Leslee Love on January 18, 2009 at 11:06pm
yea, I'm not an internet deprived atheist...
Comment by Leslee Love on January 17, 2009 at 8:13am
I agree with Susan.
 

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