ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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Comment by Marc Draco on January 21, 2009 at 9:21am
The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) has concluded that the “There’s probably no God” bus ad campaign by the British Humanist Association is not in breach of the advertising code. The ASA will therefore not launch an investigation and the case is now closed.

The ASA carefully assessed the 326 complaints it received. Some complained that the ad was offensive and denigratory to people of faith. Others challenged whether the ad was misleading because the advertiser would not be able to substantiate its claim that God “probably” does not exist.

The ASA Council concluded that the ad was an expression of the advertiser’s opinion and that the claims in it were not capable of objective substantiation. Although the ASA acknowledges that the content of the ad would be at odds with the beliefs of many, it concluded that it was unlikely to mislead or to cause serious or widespread offence.
Comment by Marc Draco on January 21, 2009 at 8:47am
Lucky for me, I was born into a secular nation that has Christianity at its heart but has enough sense to largely dismiss the supernatural and embrace the better bits. Many ex-pat founding fathers didn't like the way Britain was headed and took their beliefs with them to the new continent. I see Humanism as the ultimate evolution of Christianity because when you discard the supernatural, being nice to each other is a pretty good concept to live by.
Comment by Marc Draco on January 21, 2009 at 5:48am
"And PS: Before the Reverend Wright fiasco, B O was a frequent church goer who to all appearances looked like a Christian to me."

Perhaps that's what he needed to "see the light!" ;-)
Comment by Marc Draco on January 21, 2009 at 5:47am
Wrong again Alex, that's not sublimated, that's a direct and controlled flame.

You are the one presuming to know the "feelings of others" not I.

As for this discussion, I rather feel like a troll you are best ignored. Welcome to the lovely city of Coventry: enjoy your stay.
Comment by Alex Donovan on January 21, 2009 at 5:46am
"We definitely are a nation Christian in origin, though mainly "Christianesque" now with a good salting of atheism, and an even larger portion of "couldn't care less". "

I'd be glad to post quotes from the Founding Fathers that demonstrate that the U.S. was founded as a secular nation...although it's rather irrelevant at this point in history.
Comment by Alex Donovan on January 21, 2009 at 5:38am
"Now I know you're either a troll or a complete idiot! Passive aggression is still aggression. I just thank "God" that I'm not one of your clients - I'd end up hanging myself. "

See...sublimated anger.
Perhaps you shouldn't assume to know the feelings of others, if you don't like the same treatment yourself.
Now, if you're through with your tantrum, would you care to continue the discussion at hand?
Comment by Marc Draco on January 21, 2009 at 5:25am
"So how long have you had these anger issues, Marc? I find such issues a common malady among theists. I think it has to do with the suppressed knowledge that their theological position is indefensible."

Now I know you're either a troll or a complete idiot! Passive aggression is still aggression. I just thank "God" that I'm not one of your clients - I'd end up hanging myself.
Comment by Alex Donovan on January 21, 2009 at 5:07am
"Equally so with the juxtaposition of the question "What designed the designer?" with the question "What caused the Big Bang?". Neither is more clever than the other. Neither is provable. Both posit something out of nothing."

Something out of nothing? So you admit that this 'creator' is 'nothing'?
Comment by Alex Donovan on January 21, 2009 at 5:05am
"Are you trying to be funny Alex? I'll confess that I'm not entirely sure I follow your train of thought on this. If you really are a therapist then you'll know that treating adults (particularly autodidacts) as ignorant children is likely to offend them."

So how long have you had these anger issues, Marc? I find such issues a common malady among theists. I think it has to do with the suppressed knowledge that their theological position is indefensible.
Comment by Marcus Tullius Cicero on January 21, 2009 at 12:51am
Sorry, Don: The second paragraph in your Obama poster entry is utter nonsense. We are in no way shape or form a Muslim, or Jewish, or Hindu or Buddhist nation. We definitely are a nation Christian in origin, though mainly "Christianesque" now with a good salting of atheism, and an even larger portion of "couldn't care less". If we were a Muslim nation, God forbid (pun intended) you and I, Don, would be incarcerated or headless.

And PS: Before the Reverend Wright fiasco, B O was a frequent church goer who to all appearances looked like a Christian to me.
 

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