ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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The portrait is Charles Darwin, age 31, in 1840

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Comment by Marc Draco on September 10, 2009 at 12:06pm
100% with you there. Bush picks a fight and Pope Tony goes along like the good little lap dog he was. You can be sure I didn't vote for him.

Note also that neither one of them had family in any of the wars they are responsible for.
Comment by Louis Davout on September 10, 2009 at 12:00pm
"Excellent - it's about time someone from the US recognized the problems she's causing for the rest of us."

Now Marc, there is plenty of blame to go around. Blair went happily along with Bush into Iraq.
Comment by Marc Draco on September 10, 2009 at 9:26am
Anyone else heard the latest tactic of creation "scientists"? They're currently exposing Darwin as a bad naturalist, saying that his Galapogpos research was flawed! (This of course means that evolution must be wrong.) To me, the libel laws should extend to our scientists to protect them from this sort of outrageous feigned ignominy and downright lies.
Comment by Marc Draco on September 10, 2009 at 9:22am
Excellent - it's about time someone from the US recognized the problems she's causing for the rest of us. I hold you in high regard as one of the people who can affect change: because every change starts with an idea.
Comment by Louis Davout on September 10, 2009 at 7:27am
I created one it's waiting for approval. Once approved I'll post URL.
Comment by Marc Draco on September 10, 2009 at 7:13am
This is the comment wall, Louis. It's almost always off topic!

The three things you mention are three of the worst scourges of our time - and the fourth is a major factor which the US is a major player in. 'W' refused to sign Koyoto - but that's political as well as bloody ignorant. I wonder if Obama will - that's a hotter potato than his health bill! But you're right, we could take this to a debate - anyone care to start it?
Comment by Louis Davout on September 10, 2009 at 5:05am
I'm not trying to make a big deal. But I get notices that comments have been made to the group to find out that it's off topic.

Of course I don't live in a house that has no glass. I do have a tendency to make flippant comments here and there.

I might be biting off more than I can chew here, but..
"country is directly or indirectly responsible for a lot of the world's trouble's"

War in Iraq? Yes
Center of the christian fundee and creationists? Yes
Arrogant foreign policy? Yes

What other things can be contributed to the USA alone? I understand in many things USA is a major contributor, but not alone. For instance, carbon emissions.

And of course I just contributed to the issue I initially stated.
Comment by Johnny on September 10, 2009 at 3:43am
Perhaps the group should be renamed "ORIGINS AND TERMINATIONS:..." :-)
Comment by Marc Draco on September 10, 2009 at 3:21am
FWIW, Louis, It's just general chit-chat. However, while not wishing to besmirch all American citz, you're obviously aware that your country is directly or indirectly responsible for a lot of the world's trouble's; although to be fair, most of that has stemmed from Republican politics.

Lockerbie, for example, was most likely the result of retaliation for the US's foreign policy at the time. 9/11 was almost certainly a direct effect of Bush's appalling performance. I was amazed he didn't turn the whole Arab world into a glass sheet - and expect he would have done were it not for his advisers, oil or the potential for radiation hitting US shores.

We can create a discussion if you prefer. Perhaps, as an American embarrassed by your recent premier's performance, you could start it?
Comment by Louis Davout on September 9, 2009 at 10:14pm
I may regret this but.

What does all this have to do with Origins?

Being an American I'm fully aware 1st hand of many of its problems. And I say not un-patriotically that the US is not the greatest nation in the world. I think stats point that out. Personally, I don't think there can be such a thing - unless all but one country are totalitarian theocracies.

I'm certainly not suggesting to stop your freedom of speech. And please don't think that I have an attitude - "I'm an american, do what I say." I just think this is off topic. Maybe you could create a group to discuss this.
 

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