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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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Comment by Joan Denoo on November 8, 2012 at 4:50pm

Spud, thanks for your note. As more of us come to realize there is nothing out there telling us what is right or good or fair or decent we have to come to terms with our own thoughts and actions. We can too easily blame or praise a delusion; "God said ..." or "The Devil made me ...". 

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 8, 2012 at 4:19pm

Joan, I like your long post and especially the paragraph about there being no "purpose". It expresses my thoughts better than I can.

Comment by John Lynch on November 8, 2012 at 2:35pm

The Catholic church is a perfect example of a political organization hiding behind it's priestly robes.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 8, 2012 at 1:30pm

 Religion is a consruct, as is politics and economics. They are notion developed in the minds of humans, taught through family and culture, added to, changed, adjusted as fits the times. Some reject constructs of the past because new information emerges, values change, unintended problems emerge and for other reasons.

The test is, How are constructs that influence your life working for you?

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 8, 2012 at 1:13pm

Thank you Littlejohn Dellar, clear, concise, easy to understand. I reposted with attribution to you. 

Comment by Jimmy McCann on November 8, 2012 at 12:42pm

Sorry Chris, but that like saying politics is about kissing babies and shaking hands. Of course the central message of most religions do revolve around the 'threat and promise' but that is only the propaganda of the organisations behind religion.  

Comment by Chris Dodds on November 8, 2012 at 10:14am

I always thought that the definition of a regligion was that a religon was a set of beliefs that include and revolve around some supernatural component of life (particularly human life) that continues on after the death of the physical body.

Comment by Bill on November 8, 2012 at 9:23am

@Kalliope Wörter

Thank you for clearing that up so I didn't have to. It's always alarming when someone quotes the first hit off Google of some other engine as a definition as was done here.

Comment by Jimmy McCann on November 8, 2012 at 9:19am

No argument here, although the important part of belief is: from whence it came. all religions throughout history have imposed beliefs more often through violent repression, a societal construct manufactured from fictional constructs. The US was born out of mass emigration from repressive European religions and then constructed their very own versions, Mormonism is a perfect example. 

Comment by Littlejohn Dellar on November 8, 2012 at 8:51am
Definition of religion

noun

[mass noun]
  • the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
    To believe in a personal god or gods is to have a religion.  That is the very definition of religion.
     
    Redefining the word to your taste does not change what it actually means.
 

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