ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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Comment by Joan Denoo on December 10, 2014 at 11:08am

The history of our world in 18 minutes

This incredible video should set religionists back on their heels and rethink their mythology. It contains a description of our world and the universe in which it resides. Beautifully told, impressively illustrated, concepts are so easy to understand that even hard-core "young Earth" creationists should stop and think. 

I love his story; even more I love his focus on his grandchild and the reason for paying attention to what this video conveys. 

Comment by Lemual Poot on December 10, 2014 at 10:43am

I just read my posted comment. Oops!  I didn't mean to say you should open the book and read it.  I meant, on the first page, before the characters are introduced, the set description; it's fascinating!  

Comment by Lemual Poot on December 10, 2014 at 10:07am

In the many discussions I've had about evolution, I've found one common thread of misunderstanding.  Apparently, from the pulpit, their religious leaders cite Darwin's original "Theory of Evolution," rather that the accepted fact of, or principal of evolution.  They're usually hung up on the whole, "came from monkeys" paradigm.  I've actually made some headway by first admitting that Darwin might have guessed wrong, or rather used the wrong example.  Admittedly, I haven't read the entire text of "Origin of The Species," in a very long time but I believe he wasn't all that clear about humans and their relationship with that particular species.  For illustration sake, I use their bible as reference.  It's really difficult for them to discount my words when I'm quoting Genesis.  If any of you happen to have a copy of "The Book" turn it to the very first page and read.  It's a near-perfect description of the evolutionary creation of our planet.  You have to read around the fairy tale references that were written for the intellect of the readers of that time but within it, is enough weaponry for a logical debate in the name of evolution.  I know, it's a poor choice of reference but it's the only way I've ever gotten them to even listen to me.  My question is, "How the hell did Moses (or whoever) know that stuff?"    

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Comment by Joan Denoo on November 8, 2014 at 1:02pm

The neuroscientist tackles consciousness and the self. "In his most recent book, Consciousness: Confessions of a Romantic ReductionistKoch writes that 'consciousness is a fundamental, an elemental, property of living matter.' He puts forth an 'integrated information theory' that he believes provides the first rigorous scientific theory to explain consciousness."

Christof Koch presentation at Mind and Life Conference at Mundgod, India - January 17-22, 2013

Comment by James M. Martin on October 28, 2014 at 5:39pm
Anyone seen the bizarre docudrama, "Darwin," by Peter Greenaway? It's on YouTube and deserves the hour or so of your time to watch it. It consists of a series of tableaux showing Darwin at different points, those around him moving in, out, and away like some TV commercials of late, a beautiful stylistic device that is hypnotic. Greenaway's best film since "Prospero's Books."
Comment by Joan Denoo on October 5, 2014 at 11:47am

JanBodh, it is a great pleasure to see you post on Origins, and on Atheist Nexus. We have much to learn from you. Superstition has no place in modern culture, even as we do value history, and enjoy mythology as fiction. You have a particularly difficult environment in which to live with all the ancient traditions that come from India. Know you have people who stand with you, even as you see or hear so little in you homeland. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 4, 2014 at 5:09am

@JanBodh, thank you for a sampling of Indian poet Ramdhari Singh "Dinkar. Indian alphabet is so pretty. Is this Hindi? 

He writes of strength that underlies gentleness.

Tolerance, forgiveness and clemency
Are respected by the world
Only when the glow of strength
From behind them is unfurled 

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 3, 2014 at 12:36pm

@JanBodh and those interested in political resistance, especially Indian writers resisting English colonialism.

For example: 

I am trying to find English versions of Ramdhari Singh Dinkar' prose and poetry. "He was a Ramdhari Singh was born on September 23, 1908 in a small village of Simariya in Bihar. He came off a poor Brahmin family. He studied, Sanskrit, Maithili, Bengali, Urdu and English literature. Dinkar was immensely influenced by some great poets like-Iqbal, Rabindranath Tagore, Keats and Milton. 

"Initially Ramdhari Singh was associated with the revolutionary movement in the Indian Freedom Movement. During this time he started writing his nationalist poetry as a revolutionary poet.But in his later part of life he followed Gandhaian ideology though he thought sometimes revenge is necessary for self protection."

Indian Nationalist Poets - Rashtrakavi

 

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