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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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The portrait is Charles Darwin, age 31, in 1840

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Comment by Joseph P on April 9, 2012 at 9:50pm

We joined here because we think that there is no God. We like to think that we are all equal without any proof of that either.

We all act as if we think that we are smarter than anyone else because we have evolved from some higher life form from which we have inherited the smart gene. Some of us know that we are smarter than others, better looking or not as evil as Hitler. We spend all our time comparing ourselves to others.

What you're saying has no bearing on anything.  Arguments stand or fall on their own merits.  Rather than addressing my points, you're throwing out claims of things you've done, as if we're supposed to care.  If you're not an authority in the field we're discussing, then none of it makes a damned bit of difference.

 

Then there are always the facts which seem to get into the way of our created ideas of the universe - and the money GOD. Now there is one GOD that seems to influence just about everything.

Does the money GOD affect your decisions and if so why do you let him control your life? How much would I have to pay you Joseph to change your beliefs?

That's a completely nonsensical idea.  You can't change your beliefs because you want to ... certainly not because of bribery.  The best you can do is pretend to believe something, and I'm too honest to do that.

We don't decide to believe something.  Rather, we become convinced that something is true ... hopefully through the examination of evidence and rational arguments.  Although, I hear theists do it differently.

Comment by Richard ∑wald on April 9, 2012 at 12:29pm

"Don't have to quote anyone else."

I was talking about citing what you're replying to (see above), otherwise a lot of it doesn't make much sense.

"I'm here because I thought that you needed a serious case of Atypical bi-polar which is a much better disorder."

Like this.

Comment by Richard ∑wald on April 9, 2012 at 11:59am

"We either evolved from something lower or something higher.  Which is it?"

No idea what this means, lower/higher …what? exactly, and by what criteria?

"If you compete only with yourself and you are doing something that you have never done before, how do you know when you have won?"

Won what?

"Have you ever turned down a job that you felt you could not do?"

See:

"Maybe I was thinking about the 'humankind' part of the heading and how they have been sold a bill of goods that has made them rather numb to what they are really being controlled by."

Magnets, obviously...

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 9, 2012 at 11:56am

I like Richard's post:

Petitio Principii

"

The truth of the conclusion is assumed by the premises. Often, the conclusion is simply restated in the premises in a slightly different form. In more difficult cases, the premise is a consequence of the conclusion."
Example:
  1. We know that God exists, since the Bible says God exists. What the Bible says must be true, since God wrote it and God never lies. (Here, we must agree that God exists in order to believe that God wrote the Bible.)

You know, with this little nudge, I might begin to think logically. 

Comment by Richard ∑wald on April 9, 2012 at 11:15am

" the smart gene"

No such thing.

"We spend all our time comparing ourselves  to others"

Please, speak for yourself. I am only in competition with the one person who can improve me, …myself.

"the money GOD"

See: 

"Does the money GOD affect your decisions and if so why do you let him control your life? 

See:

How much would I have to pay you Joseph to change your beliefs? "

See:

Comment by Richard ∑wald on April 9, 2012 at 9:32am

"Silly to leave a group because of one day of activity."

Especially after having flooded the blogs with 4 topics in an less than an hour, all of which are already pre-existing topics on forums/groups….

….just sayin'

Comment by Joseph P on April 9, 2012 at 9:22am
Heh, so it would seem. The comment walls of the bigger groups explode, sometimes. It's happened before, and it'll happen again. Silly to leave a group because of one day of activity.
Comment by Richard ∑wald on April 9, 2012 at 9:13am

"who cares?"

Those who won't use the unsubscribe button or email filters, …just speculating here.

Comment by Joseph P on April 9, 2012 at 7:30am

The Hitler stuff was very little of the discussion.  And if it wandered onto that subject, who cares?  Conversations wander.  I brought the main thread of the discussion back around to where Chris Tidman started it.  You're always going to get a bit of residual bickering, around the edges.

 

You guys act as if it's that difficult to deal with the e-mail overflow.  Just mark all of the e-mails that say 'commented on the group "ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN" on Atheist Nexus' as read, and then follow one of them to the comment wall and read them there in an easier form.

I think most of the activity has died down, anyway.  It was a Sunday afternoon, and more people than usual were around.

Comment by Wyatt on April 9, 2012 at 4:08am
This thread has fairly filled my mailbox to overflowing. The Reductio ad Hitlerum argument was a red herring, and people predictably took the bait and jumped on it, leading to a vast time-wasting digression. It was my understanding that this forum is for non-theists who accept Darwinian evolution as pretty well proven. I was hoping to see more discussion about the probable conditions under which certain traits might have been selected for, how our species has evolved, what factors led our ancestors to make the first exodus out of Africa, what their language and beliefs might have been like, etc.
 

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