ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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Comment by Diana Bett on September 26, 2011 at 10:16am
Don't forget News as a business-- the news media makes more money from sensationalism than they ever could from being reasonable.
Comment by Marc Draco on September 26, 2011 at 10:12am
Politics - that's the problem. Without politics that are stuck in the dark ages before telephony, never mind Internet, the religious could never get the coverage they do.
Comment by Diana Bett on September 26, 2011 at 9:55am
Oh, I take no offense. This country is fucked in the collective head in many ways.
Comment by Hania Uscka-Wehlou on September 26, 2011 at 8:19am

Evil, yes; fundie, no.

I like it very much :-)

Comment by Joseph P on September 26, 2011 at 8:16am
I think it mostly has to do with fundamentalism.  The Catholic church isn't even vaguely fundamentalist.  Evil, yes; fundie, no.  They accept huge swaths of the Bible as a nice story that tells you how you're supposed to act.  America is one of the few first-world countries with such a large percentage of religious denominations that push literal, anti-scientific ideas.
Comment by Diana Bett on September 26, 2011 at 7:53am
Could still add it as a discussion topic somewhere, but yeah, you've got people talking about it. :P
Comment by Hania Uscka-Wehlou on September 26, 2011 at 7:51am

Diana - I see, it is possible that I could meet people like this in today's Poland... (I left Poland some 15 years ago).

PS. I see that I had better put this question as a discussion topic, not as a comment on the group. Too late...

Comment by Diana Bett on September 26, 2011 at 7:42am
To be honest, even in the US it's possible to never encounter the fact that people really do disbelieve evolution. I am 26 and it has only been in the last year that I've come to realize that yes, these people exist, and I have met some of them.
Comment by Hania Uscka-Wehlou on September 26, 2011 at 7:12am

Fil,

Indeed, it is an important question "how do we as atheists accommodate the particular characteristics of each culture?". When a catholic person from Poland watches "Religulous" or reads "The God Delusion", his/her reaction always is "it is not about us, it is about crazy people" ;-)

Comment by Hania Uscka-Wehlou on September 26, 2011 at 2:14am
I watched "Religulous" yesterday. I am a (strong) atheist, but I was raised in catholic Poland and used to believe in the catholic god + Jesus when I was very young. There are several striking differences between christians in Poland and christians in the USA. I have never ever met a single person from Poland who would not believe in evolution (is it really something you can BELIEVE or not BELIEVE? There is a lot of hard scientific evidence for evolution). The creation story from the Bible is (in Poland) always commented as something you have to see as a symbol (of triggering the Big Bang by god?). This is why there is no such a clear contradiction between religion and science in Poland. I know a lot of Polish people who are scientists and believe in god. I wonder where the difference in the attitude towards science in religious people in the USA and Poland comes from. Any idea?
 

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