ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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Comment by Hania Uscka-Wehlou on September 26, 2011 at 12:36pm

While I can't prove it, I would suggest that the reason for this is that they actually approve of any practise that can even remotely be considered 'catholic' while, in their silence, distancing themselves from the barbarism of much of it.

 

Sounds possible.

Comment by Marc Draco on September 26, 2011 at 10:21am
News media can be controlled by politicians - they just choose not to (in the US this is under Free Speech, I expect).

However, IF politicians were elected on their actual abilities - not their ability to woo a crowd, they could show people what load of crap the news media spout. Faux New's days could be numbered with the NoW debacle which has now spread to the US.

However, the fines are pitiful. Better to fine a corporation a percentage of its net, post tax earnings than some "large" amount, because a company the size of News Corp can absorb losses of a few million and barely flinch - then it's business as usual.
Comment by Diana Bett on September 26, 2011 at 10:16am
Don't forget News as a business-- the news media makes more money from sensationalism than they ever could from being reasonable.
Comment by Marc Draco on September 26, 2011 at 10:12am
Politics - that's the problem. Without politics that are stuck in the dark ages before telephony, never mind Internet, the religious could never get the coverage they do.
Comment by Diana Bett on September 26, 2011 at 9:55am
Oh, I take no offense. This country is fucked in the collective head in many ways.
Comment by Hania Uscka-Wehlou on September 26, 2011 at 8:19am

Evil, yes; fundie, no.

I like it very much :-)

Comment by Joseph P on September 26, 2011 at 8:16am
I think it mostly has to do with fundamentalism.  The Catholic church isn't even vaguely fundamentalist.  Evil, yes; fundie, no.  They accept huge swaths of the Bible as a nice story that tells you how you're supposed to act.  America is one of the few first-world countries with such a large percentage of religious denominations that push literal, anti-scientific ideas.
Comment by Diana Bett on September 26, 2011 at 7:53am
Could still add it as a discussion topic somewhere, but yeah, you've got people talking about it. :P
Comment by Hania Uscka-Wehlou on September 26, 2011 at 7:51am

Diana - I see, it is possible that I could meet people like this in today's Poland... (I left Poland some 15 years ago).

PS. I see that I had better put this question as a discussion topic, not as a comment on the group. Too late...

Comment by Diana Bett on September 26, 2011 at 7:42am
To be honest, even in the US it's possible to never encounter the fact that people really do disbelieve evolution. I am 26 and it has only been in the last year that I've come to realize that yes, these people exist, and I have met some of them.
 

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