ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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Comment by AtheistTech on September 6, 2011 at 2:23am

@Natalie and Richard H. McCargar

 

Hello and thanks. In response to education, would you agree that religious school is not free? Would you agree that religious school is not secular in design? If it is not free, then the parent would have an incentive to make sure his/her investment is not being wasted. Hence your increased attendance to college, but the indoctrination of religion at an early age helps make them sheep. My suggestion was to educate every child in public schools on how to think for themselves. But Natalie, a former teacher, says "And as far as raising a generation of little atheists, ain't gonna happen." She agrees that our education system "is in drastic need of reform", but offers no solution as to how we can accomplish it. I feel she can give us a list of reasons why it "ain't gonna happen". I'd like to hear them to see if we as an organized group can solve them.

Comment by Joseph P on September 5, 2011 at 11:14pm
Everything is relative and can only be looked at statistically, if you want to make sense of anything.  You can find an example of any combination of traits, if you look hard enough.
Comment by Joseph P on September 5, 2011 at 10:35pm

No, Alecks, the usage of the @ symbol is the same as in e-mail.  Same sound and basic meaning.

 

I @#$%^&* hate Twitter.

Comment by Alecks Gates on September 5, 2011 at 10:24pm

1. Can you believe people were able to respond to each other on the internet before Twitter?  Has to be one of the worst social evolutions of the internet.  It's as if people couldn't figure out what the colon key was for.  Plus, it's not the same as email.  Email is some username at some domain name on the internet.

2. GNOME (the popular GUI found as default on many Linux distributions), probably KDE as well, has had a built-in screenshot utility long before Windows 7 existed.  More Atheists should learn to utilize Free Software.  Don't even get me started on software patents.

3. I'm not really looking for more Atheists, I just want people to respect my beliefs and don't want anyone's beliefs affected by the government.  Humans are not logical beings, and morals are both subjective and completely imaginary.  In order for our government to act without morals (which would be hard in itself, I know I couldn't do it), we would need a true, physically obtainable goal.  I don't think we could come up with one everyone would agree on . . . even Vulcans have emotions.

Comment by Joseph P on September 5, 2011 at 10:15pm
Same as e-mail, yes.  Honestly, it's not as necessary in my posts, since I blather enough for people to figure out what I'm referring to.  For people who are briefer in their comments, though, it helps people keep track of what the comment is in response to, in a format like this which lacks response nesting.
Comment by AtheistTech on September 5, 2011 at 10:04pm

@Natalie

 

The little @ sign is called the at sign. So it translates into "at Natalie"

Comment by Susan Stanko on September 5, 2011 at 9:46pm
The @ comes from twitter.  That is how replies are structured.
Comment by Natalie A Sera on September 5, 2011 at 9:34pm
Fil (what's that little @ sign?) I might be in the minority, but *I* can make that distinction. For example, I don't believe in hunting, because a hunter CANNOT guarantee the animal a merciful death, but I'm not out to ban hunting on the basis of MY belief. I WILL tell people about my belief, but I also acknowledge that there are differences. Point taken?
Comment by Natalie A Sera on September 5, 2011 at 8:36pm
Trekjunky, as a former schoolteacher, I couldn't agree more that we need to educate our children in how to think. But just how to do that is another issue. Philosophy, in that it is a way to learn to think, is NOT taught in the public schools. And I think the public would be up in arms if it were, except possibly if it were restricted to standard Christian philosophers, which then gets too close to religion. Our teaching of history is already WAY too topheavy with European Christian history (didn't you know that the Greeks were the beginning of mankind?), and until recently Civics (or Government, or whatever you want to call it) was also very white, Christian oriented (and in places, still is -- the Christian country believers may well have been taught that in school). I guess what I'm trying to say is that education is in drastic need of reform. And as far as raising a generation of little atheists, ain't gonna happen. I was out of line for even mentioning that our BASIC laws, such as no murder, burglary, etc. came long before the Greeks and occur in most if not all cultures.
Comment by G Smith on September 5, 2011 at 8:08pm

To encourage teen atheists in their YouTube "coming out" efforts, I seek out their coming out videos, click Like, and play their video twice.  Both views will add to their Views tally, although the counter is usually not immediately incremented.  

I think that encouraging them will give them more self-confidence, and that they will speak more openly on the subject in school.  This will hopefully filter down through the grade levels.

An example of a teen atheist "coming out" video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrfFcKTHWKQ

 

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