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Comment by Rudy V Kiist on July 13, 2011 at 2:40pm

The other stereotype atheists have is we're arrogant SOBs. Get over it already. We're human like everyone else and personally that's the way I like being looked at. Anyone thinking it's a big deal or morally wrong then DON'T do it. Otherwise don't push your values on everyone else. That's one of the reasons I'm proud admitting I'm an atheist. So those of you thinking you know better than everyone else, just give it a rest.

Comment by Susan Stanko on July 13, 2011 at 6:53am

So you would rather have Ohio have to pay up in attorney costs than have the poll "tainted".  The citizens of Ohio must be thanking you for that.

Comment by dr kellie on July 13, 2011 at 6:12am

Stephan, you are not wrong.  This is getting silly.  On la otra mano, it seems that some people like getting your name wrong.  Sometimes the lazy fight is the fun fight.

Comment by Richard H. McCargar on July 12, 2011 at 10:30pm

Stephen. You wrote: "I reject their direction to keep this to Ohio only, because I need support from my friends outside the state to keep my state from doing something unethical. My ethics tell me to involve anyone and everyone I can to fight the good fight. I wouldn't feel I had acted as a soundly moral person had I NOT tried to get everyone else involved."

You are not fighting the good fight with your tactics. You are fighting the lazy fight.

The good fight would be to publicly fight this, not to subvert the process.  Naturally, people want to take the easy way out. Feel free, but don't call it ethical.

Comment by Richard H. McCargar on July 12, 2011 at 10:26pm

Stephen, no matter how many times you say it wrong, it is wrong.  You are to be an Ohio resident, and the additional votes are on a 1 time per day basis, hence the original suggestion to delete your cookies to bypass that poll safeguard.

Asking your Ohio friends to do the same would not in that case be unethical.  What was initially asked here, was for non-Ohio residents to lie about the zip-code in which they live, and to delete the cookies to circumvent the poll's integrity.

You had the right words, but didn't bother to understand them.

Comment by Kent on July 12, 2011 at 7:44pm

Alice,  Isn't it the same as discussing cheating?  A lot of believers have the misconception of Athiest lacking morals.  Why give them any ammunition, even though this is quite trivial. 

Comment by Alice on July 12, 2011 at 6:46pm

It's from the story of Percival, the holy grail and the fisher king and him coming back on his horse - the first time he comes he comes on his horse searching - but later when he is older he comes back and gets off his horse and walks with the people - then he finds the truth - it's a metaphor - basically - he learns to walk with the people - not see himself as special or more important - superior to others - but equal to others... :)

http://www.mcelhearn.com/perceval.html

Comment by Alice on July 12, 2011 at 6:14pm

Why is it taboo for some people, to discuss gaming an online pole for a sticker?

Comment by The Secular One on July 12, 2011 at 12:30pm

I have said twice now, I think it is ethical to vote repeatedly in this popularity contest of a poll.  It isn't because "it is just an online poll."  The poll has set up rules, I'm following them.  Visit this page daily from now through August 8 to vote for your favorite from among six new designs. Then "endorse" your sticker by sharing it with your friends through Facebook and Twitter so they too can join in the fun. The sticker that earns the popular vote will be the one distributed to Ohio voters at the polls this November 8, 2011.

Please enter the voting page below and thank you for participating!

Please enter your Ohio ZIP code to vote

We are arguing over the bold section. The website itself tells me to vote repeatedly and to get my friends to do this. How in the world is it unethical to follow the rules set up by the website. The point in question is the ethics of getting friends to vote who aren't in the state. My question is: do all of us have something to lose or gain in this election? When you trample the Constitution, shouldn't all American citizens get involved? With the power the USA has in the world, shouldn't the world get involved when and where it can?

I reject their direction to keep this to Ohio only, because I need support from my friends outside the state to keep my state from doing something unethical. My ethics tell me to involve anyone and everyone I can to fight the good fight. I wouldn't feel I had acted as a soundly moral person had I NOT tried to get everyone else involved.

Comment by mike h. on July 12, 2011 at 11:23am

The "anything goes" foundation is based on those who do not want their own behaviour called into question. Hicthens has had to combat this debate over and over....where do atheists get their ethic/morals if not from god.....Some of you make it a tough argument for him....JMO

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