ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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Comment by Marc Draco on December 21, 2010 at 7:50pm

Dr. Cowboy - I don't think they have a choice; think Pavlov's dogs and you can see how I'm reasoning this out.

 

It should make an interesting (hopefully, last) chapter for my book as its quite intensive stuff; but in essence I think once we're conditioned to think a particular "truth" it becomes so ingrained that it is (almost) impossible to overcome.

 

A delusion if you like - but there appears to be a real mechanism behind this that we're all prone to.

Comment by Dr. Cowboy on December 21, 2010 at 5:03pm

Oh, they don't doubt ALL science, just the parts that contradict their view that the world is magical.  Of course, they don't actually realize that the same science that proves the universe is over 13 billion years old also allows their TV to work.  They love science when it doesn't contradict them, but when it does they believe scientists just make stuff up.  Oi.

Comment by CDB on December 21, 2010 at 4:50pm
I think anyone that doubts evolution, doubts science and should have to give up all the science advances they enjoy in everyday life and go back to a cave......
Comment by Marc Draco on December 21, 2010 at 4:37pm

Damnit, that's twice I lost what I was trying to say: in essence what we have is this:

 

Pavlov's American Dogs.

Comment by Rhonda Floyd on December 21, 2010 at 2:30pm

  I grew up in Maine, and evolution was taught all throughout high school. 

  As soon as I was able to read and comprehend, I realized religion was a farce.  I had great parents, I was never forced or brainwashed into belief of mythical creatures.  I do see it where I live now, TX (ugh, don't ask) they force their children into believing only the KJV.  Sad, but true.  It is truly disgusting the way the children have only one viewpoint.  Almost "Stepford wife-ish". 

Comment by Joseph P on December 21, 2010 at 2:18pm

@Rhonda

It's because they only cover the material briefly in middle school science and one year of high school science.  Meanwhile, their parents and fundamentalist preachers are opposing the school teaching the whole time the kids are in school, and the anti-educational brainwashing is continued long after the real education has ceased.

 

When almost all of what they hear about Evolution is from the people who deliberately lie and misrepresent it, they don't have much of a chance of understanding what it actually says and how beautiful it is.  All they hear about is the crocoduck, only said seriously, not mockingly, as it deserves.

Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on December 21, 2010 at 1:26pm

Here is a taste of what's ahead when the Republicans in the USA have their choice of congressional committee heads. -- Gary

 

Climate Change Denier Shimkus To Head Environment Subcommittee (VIDEO)
Ryan J. Reilly | December 20, 2010, 9:46AM

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/climate_change_de...

Rep. John Shimkus (R-IL) -- the guy who thinks that man can't really destroy the planet because the Bible says only God can -- was passed over for chair of the House Energy and Commerce Committee in favor of Rep. Fred Upton (R-MI).

But now Upton has named Shimkus to chair the Environment and Economy Subcommittee. That subcommittee has jurisdiction over issues like national energy policy, energy regulation and utilization and the Clean Air Act.

Shimkus, you may recall, questioned whether decrease the use of carbon dioxide was taking away plant food from the atmosphere, declared that cap-and-trade proposals were scarier than terrorism and said global warming was not an issue because God promised Noah he wouldn't destroy the Earth again after the flood.

Shimkus also defended his positions in an interview with a local television station where he highlighted the upside of global warming.

Comment by david perry on December 21, 2010 at 1:08pm
In this one she talks about her book, "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDyDtYy2I0M&feature=related

She is far from some wild eyed radical atheist, very far. Which makes what she says even scarier.
Comment by david perry on December 21, 2010 at 1:04pm
It's such a profound failure of education in the States. Are we supposed to think that if enough people start to disbelieve in gravity we'll start flying........It's not only embarrassing, it's deeply troubling.
I rsan across this woman a couple weeks ago, she worked for Reagan and she's saying this stuff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vJK85PgOuE&feature=related
Comment by Rhonda Floyd on December 21, 2010 at 1:02pm

  I cannot understand how, with all the evidence there is, that people don't understand evolution.  Do these people not read?

 

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