ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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Comment by Joseph P on December 21, 2010 at 2:18pm

@Rhonda

It's because they only cover the material briefly in middle school science and one year of high school science.  Meanwhile, their parents and fundamentalist preachers are opposing the school teaching the whole time the kids are in school, and the anti-educational brainwashing is continued long after the real education has ceased.

 

When almost all of what they hear about Evolution is from the people who deliberately lie and misrepresent it, they don't have much of a chance of understanding what it actually says and how beautiful it is.  All they hear about is the crocoduck, only said seriously, not mockingly, as it deserves.

Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on December 21, 2010 at 1:26pm

Here is a taste of what's ahead when the Republicans in the USA have their choice of congressional committee heads. -- Gary

 

Climate Change Denier Shimkus To Head Environment Subcommittee (VIDEO)
Ryan J. Reilly | December 20, 2010, 9:46AM

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/climate_change_de...

Rep. John Shimkus (R-IL) -- the guy who thinks that man can't really destroy the planet because the Bible says only God can -- was passed over for chair of the House Energy and Commerce Committee in favor of Rep. Fred Upton (R-MI).

But now Upton has named Shimkus to chair the Environment and Economy Subcommittee. That subcommittee has jurisdiction over issues like national energy policy, energy regulation and utilization and the Clean Air Act.

Shimkus, you may recall, questioned whether decrease the use of carbon dioxide was taking away plant food from the atmosphere, declared that cap-and-trade proposals were scarier than terrorism and said global warming was not an issue because God promised Noah he wouldn't destroy the Earth again after the flood.

Shimkus also defended his positions in an interview with a local television station where he highlighted the upside of global warming.

Comment by david perry on December 21, 2010 at 1:08pm
In this one she talks about her book, "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDyDtYy2I0M&feature=related

She is far from some wild eyed radical atheist, very far. Which makes what she says even scarier.
Comment by david perry on December 21, 2010 at 1:04pm
It's such a profound failure of education in the States. Are we supposed to think that if enough people start to disbelieve in gravity we'll start flying........It's not only embarrassing, it's deeply troubling.
I rsan across this woman a couple weeks ago, she worked for Reagan and she's saying this stuff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vJK85PgOuE&feature=related
Comment by Rhonda Floyd on December 21, 2010 at 1:02pm

  I cannot understand how, with all the evidence there is, that people don't understand evolution.  Do these people not read?

Comment by Bryon on December 21, 2010 at 12:39pm

okay, I think we have finally gone over the cliff. New Gallop pole indicates that 78% of Americans doubt evolution. How embarrassing.

Comment by Tony Davis on December 17, 2010 at 3:06pm

"Holy Shit"??  Too funny!

 

You reminded me of something actually when you mentioned that nothing about it seemed "holy".  As an unbeliever I have been lucky enough to actually visit some of the most sacred places on earth (sacred now or in the past).  Pyramids at Giza; Vatican; various cathedrals in Europe; Dai Butsu (giant Buddha) in Kamakura Japan; reclining Buddha in Bangkok, Thailand; Temple of Heaven in Beijing, China; and Jesus' baptism site in Jordan.  Not to make any value judgments on which belief system has more merits here but by far the least inspiring of all these was Jesus' baptism site.  Even the Christians among us were wholly uninspired.  I personally need no more evidence that the truly majestic things we experience are natural phenomena and man-made wonders.  Nothing supernatural thus far has arisen to impress those who see clearly.

Comment by Jim DePaulo on December 17, 2010 at 2:54pm

How in hell did that get double printed??

Comment by Jim DePaulo on December 17, 2010 at 2:51pm

 

When I was a health inspector for Denver Health Department I had to inspect the facilities and practice surrounding the making of the "holy flesh".  It was a small (very clean) room in the basement of a residence for nuns.  The lady that produced the sacred biscuits was a elderly nun with hairnet and a white apron over her habit. One production device resembled an oversized notary stamp the others were a mixer and rolling pin. The thinly rolled dough was fed under the stamp and communion wafers popped out. I asked the nun if I could taste the dough – it had the taste “qualities” of an unsalted rice cake – it tasted like shit with or without queso

.

The whole process, while very sanitary, didn't have any “holy” aura around it - no doubt some priestly magic needed to be applied.

The idea that a shitty tasting cracker turns into a piece of Jesus meat when eaten and is then washed down with a shot of blood was, IMO, one of the strangest and disgusting rituals that the church had dreamed up. Further, when one took a crap could it be said to be holy shit ?



When I was a health inspector for Denver Health Department I had to inspect the facilities and practice surrounding the making of the "holy flesh".  It was a small (very clean) room in the basement of a residence for nuns.  The lady that produced the sacred biscuits was a elderly nun with hairnet and a white apron over her habit. One production device resembled an oversized notary stamp the others were a mixer and rolling pin. The thinly rolled dough was fed under the stamp and communion wafers popped out. I asked the nun if I could taste the dough – it had the taste “qualities” of an unsalted rice cake – it tasted like shit with or without queso

.

The whole process, while very sanitary, didn't have any “holy” aura around it - no doubt some priestly magic needed to be applied.

The idea that a shitty tasting cracker turns into a piece of Jesus meat when eaten and is then washed down with a shot of blood was, IMO, one of the strangest and disgusting rituals that the church had dreamed up. Further, when one took a crap could it be said to be holy shit ?



Comment by J-Lyn on December 17, 2010 at 1:18pm

Thanks so much for the welcome! Sorry for the late response. I'm so happy to have found a group like this.

 

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