I always here the theists saying God is self existing. Really now. Why can't the universe be self existing as well.
I like the phrase, "It is what it is," & nothing is ''made'' about it. It just is...........
Now, fairy tales are a different kettle of fish....obviously made by humans........for humans.
Yes, and the bible states that god is the Alpha and Omega, therefore, there WAS a beginning.
Remember, I think, therefore I am.
Then, they must explain how he was BEFORE Alpha.
How did god think before he was.
William, your last sentence is short, neat, and effectively right; and Patricia expresses it well too. "It just is....".
Who made god?
Someone who had no other idea about the world or how it works.
Probably got bored & wanted to see what it was like to try controlling someone else for his own gains.........
The shame is that whoever originally came up with the idea of a god had no idea what the implications of that idea was. Later, once the idea had metastasized a bit, someone else realized that said idea could be USED.
And so it began.
God was made by humans, for humans, and it became a tool of domination.
Or, as Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900 CE) once said,
” Is man one of God's blunders? Or is God one of man's blunders?”
Man blunders all over the place. Why shouldn't he blunder with the concept of a deity?
I go with god is one of man's blunders!
This God thing is a mental disorder