Some christians have said to me that the reason why scientific dates don't match is because god first created the world with dinosaurs etc and other things. Then he later destroyed that world because it was corrupt and then remade it into a new creation. They will tell me that is why dates don't add up with the bible because it is misinterpreted.

 

I don't believe this of course because why would an all knowing god have made a mistake the first time. I'm not a science person I'm more of a history person. So if anyone can give me help that would be great. thanks so much:)

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I would simply ask "How do you know this? Where does this theory originate?" If they say their preacher, repeat the questions.

Continue until they realize they pulled the notion out of thin air or one or the other of you grows tired of the conversation.
Outside of Noah's flood, where does it talk about God destroying the world. The dates still don't add up either way.
Fanfic isn't limited to Buffy the Vampire Slayer stories, I guess.
I guess I missed that part of the bible where it discusses god creating (and then distroying) the dinosaurs.
That's what happens when you don't stay awake!
And you can read the bible and stay awake? :>)
I never got past Deuteronomy.
And why a "perfect" God ( isn't he/or HER?? )would loose precious time creating imperfect creatures? How can something/someone "perfect" create something that is not "perfect?" Or is he still on training? Maybe the force wasn't with him the first time...

Or Maybe "God" has no idea of the future,...so he couldn't foresee... kind of a paradox if you consider people trusts "Gods Plan" and "He knows what will happen ALL the time.."
Talk origins (http://talkorigins.org/) is always a good reference site although normally for evolutionary processes, which would cover all the origins of life and why the idea of a destroyed world doesn't really work with evidence and shared traits (such as bone structures etc). It's always a good place to turn too when people try quote mining, making specific "scientific" claims etc. Hope that helps
Suzanne,

It seems to me that there are a number of books which may help you understand the mindset of your Christian friends. The first one is one you should pass on to your friends after you have read it to help them understand where you are coming from. This book is:"Saving Darwin" by Karl W. Giberson, ISBN 978-0-06-122878-0.

If your friends are interested in further pursuit of the discussion, make sure that you have read any or all of:
"Why Darwin Matters" by Michael Shermer ISBN 978-0-8050-8304,
"Your Inner Fish" by Neil Shubin ISBN 978-0-307-27745-9 and
"Why Intelligent Design Fails" by Matt Young and Taner Edis ISBN 0-8135-3872-6.

These books may fail to impress your friends, but they will give you a reasonably solid grounding in evolution and the problems found with intelligent design creationism.
I would suggest that you explore with your friends the provenance of their theory of the double creation. It sounds like a "lying for Jesus" attempt to offer an unjustified explanation to me.
I was a old earth creationist for years before I realized I'm an atheist. For a brief period (about a week) I considered recreation. A thought occurred to me that threw that out. If some global disaster or series of events took place that made the entire earth "null and void", why is there no geological evidence of the global disaster(s) dating back to 6,000-10,000 years ago? Like the KT boundary. Of course it could easily be said that god made it that way. I had serious doubts about recreation to begin with, so it might not work for them. There may be some fallacy in my line of reasoning too. I still have a lot to learn about fallacies and rational thinking.
It would be easier just to thump them.

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