I had a fierce debate today with a friend at the local pet shop over vegetarianism - she's an ovo-lacto veggie - over if an egg is alive.
Bad idea... ;-)
We parted friends but it got me to thinking - IS an unfertilized egg alive?
The obvious answer is, of course not, but is that the whole answer? I don't know.
I did figure out why ovo-lacto vegetarianism is nearly as bad as omnivorous me though. The O-L veggie claims to have the moral high ground that no animal died because of them - but this isn't true.
The hens are kept in horrible conditions and bred specifically to lay-lay-lay until they are slaughtered for animal food and probably recycled to themselves. Worse, the cow only provides milk for its offspring which we then take away and slaughter: so indirectly, the demand for milk creates (almost) as much suffering for baby cattle as the meat does. One could even argue (just for fun) that the calves are a bi-product and us meat eaters are simply providing a service for the milk drinkers.
I value my testicles too much to posit that one to her though.
You make me facepalm.
The reason for adopting and for following vegetarianism isn't fundamentally for reasons of a supposed moral high-ground in all cases for all people all the time everywhere. That reason is completely uncompelling on its own, and in general is a sort of non-sexual masturbation. The only compelling reason to become or be vegetarian is the absence of the waste in energy and resources that occurs during the steps where animals are involved.
Okay, now that I've harped my standard spiel I feel better.
Now, to address the point: I- Hey, wait a minute! Jerking yourself off about how ovolactoveggies are still as sinful as what Westboro refers to as "fag enablers" was the point, wasn't it?
:D lol. You're so sneaky.
Wow!! talk about opening up the proverbial can of worms.....this whole discussion took on a life of its' own.
Good to see that we can all discuss things without yelling or name calling, though. I like seeing the respect for other people's opinions.