Thanks for the work you’ve done – having 3 young children myself at the moment – I really don’t get much time to think about or write about this stuff – you on the other hand have all that experience, will and perhaps more time than me also. So I’m very grateful for this and look forward to hearing more.
I feel for you Ima : )
I think this is a fantastic start – I’ve printed off your 3 page document and will read through it.
Really I can’t know until aiming to implement some of the ideas into real life.
I would suggest that we have a space online that people can find and freely contribute ideas that can be integrated into the main document. We can have sub sections that give more detail about different systems or different celebratory ideas – even if they aren’t compatible with each other – people only choose to use some of them – it gives variety and choice and also is inclusive of many views.
It would be nice also for people to include photographs to give more of an idea about how things are done…
Like I’ve said I really like the gist of what you’ve got here. I think it’s open to adaptation for individual groups – but gives us a really good frame work to start with. As you’ve already thought so thoroughly about it, I can’t really add anything at this point…
Thanks for the encouragement – I suppose I feel isolated because if I do want to celebrate a normal ‘holiday’ with religious bases I don’t have any group to share it with – they are all at church… and I would like for my children to have more influence than just me – in a sea of theists – they are bound to wonder why we are an island…
I realise that I need to generate my own appropriate celebrations – in line with my beliefs – my husband is a theist too – which makes it harder for me also… as I really am on my own wanting my children to understand and know about the reality being a none supernatural world – I think they trust me – but I really don’t know how they will turn out, and having additional support would really help.
You say that states show that atheism is on the rise, but in Dawkins latest book on evolution – the best show in town – he cites states that show consistently that the US is at 40% creationists for the last 40 years – that doesn’t seem good – and yet it’s over such a long period too… please show me your stats? Also I might look at the ones for Australia and Melbourne in particular… where might I find them?
I was actually meaning on a world wide level. And granted, in the 3rd world, less developed countries....and the US (in particular the southern states) theism holds strong. But to look on the bright side, they can't go up much in places where religion is at 96+%. Here in Canada the government comes out with new stats on religion every 10 years ending in "11". I went to our Canada stats web site and for some reason had a little trouble getting around. Basically our east is more religious than the west and up north in Inuit country, modern religion doesn't exist.
Since 1981, religion has been dropping (approx) at a rate of 10% per every 10 years in Canada, so this years stats should be very interesting. I'll give you the world stats from wiki pedia. If you read about North America, it'll say what I've been finding here. And that is, many people just don't give a rat's ass...they don't confess to anything...religion, agnostic, or atheism. I believe they just don't want to think about it and really don't care.
Good point Joseph
I agree that once we go into crisis we are likely to change more – extremists are more likely to go into crisis over it…
Have you checked out the Hawaii Secular Society?
I'm making more connections now locally after pushing for it, I'm getting some results - I went to an atheist meeting the other day at the pub, my husband looked after my kids, which was nice, and i've also started a short adult education course in philosophy in the hope of meeting some like minds - I think I'll hook up with the local humanists too, they seem nice.... like naturalists - atheists can be so angry... LOL