Comment by Joseph P on November 14, 2010 at 2:11pm

Hmm, wacky. I must be mixing up Fayetteville with Jacksonville or something.

When it comes to the privatization of Law Enforcement and such, I always worry about such private organizations being answerable more to the people holding the purse strings than to the public. I see pure Libertarianism as the route to an aristocracy. Absolute freedom is never an end point. Someone always makes a power grab.

I'm all for fiscal responsibility, just not fiscal conservatism.

Also, I'm probably a bit militant anti-Libertarianism because most of my exposure is to the extremists. The guys on our group's boards are the sort who think that all taxation should be illegal, and the only role of the government should be contract law.

Comment by Joseph P on November 15, 2010 at 11:56am

Cool, I can live with that.

Comment by Joseph P on December 7, 2010 at 9:43am

About 70 miles north of you. How big of a group do you guys have down there, anyway?

Comment by Goz on December 14, 2010 at 10:30am

 New Bern here.

 

Comment by aerie on December 20, 2010 at 4:04pm

Wow, Richard that sucks. When xtians say "live and let live" they don't mean it; even the luke-warm ones.

 

I recently became active on Facebook (minimally) mostly because of my daughters, etc., but I'm just waiting for that exact same thing to happen to me. If I'm outed to my family, it'll be from Facebook for sure. I don't go there much but I feel like it 'follows' me then announces it to the world. But, I'm a bit paranoid; obviously those of us in the closet have to reason  to be!

Comment by aerie on December 20, 2010 at 4:07pm

Welcome to the new folks! It's extremely hard to be a proud & active atheist in the south. The consequences can be extremely detrimental on so many levels. Hell, even the prisons in NC are full of 'xtians'!

Comment by Joseph P on December 20, 2010 at 6:10pm

It depends upon the area.  In the Triangle, the Triad, and Charlotte, you may as well be in the north.

Comment by aerie on December 21, 2010 at 3:20am

So true Lynn, claiming to 'find religion' is considered a change for the better by many of our courts. Unfortunately, I found myself on a 6mo probation for a misdemeanor drug charge ~5yrs ago & the P.O.  inquired about my status with Gawd & urged me to attend his church at almost every visit. I'm in the rural south so I always politely declined & assured him that I grew up in a xtian home & knew the Lawd quite well (both very much true!).

Comment by Joseph P on December 21, 2010 at 8:40am

Heck, you'd have had a lawsuit on your hands, if you had wanted it.  Since he's acting as a representative of the state, he's endorsing religion, a clear violation of the First Amendment.  Of course you'd want to wait until after your probation is over.  Probably well after the statute of limitations, now, so no worries either way.

Comment by aerie on December 21, 2010 at 1:10pm

Joseph, in small town south, the evil web of corruption, deceit, nepotism, gossip, lies and 'good ol' boyism' is so entangled and runs way too deep for lil' ol' me right now. I hope to get back to the city soon when kids get gone. Then and only then would I even consider any unnecessary, involuntary contact with these county courts and/or law enforcement. They all went to high school together and they're all kin to the older folk; you can imagine how well it works.

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