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Anti-pseudoscience, anti-woo, pro science, pro critical thinking, no conspiracy theories, no spin. Count the logical fallacies. No Nonsense!

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"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan

"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." -- Christopher Hitchens

What is a logical fallacy? All arguments have the same basic structure: A therefore B. They begin with one or more premises (A), which is a fact or assumption upon which the argument is based. They then apply a logical principle (therefore) to arrive at a conclusion (B). An example of a logical principle is that of equivalence. For example, if you begin with the premises that A=B and B=C, you can apply the logical principle of equivalence to conclude that A=C. A logical fallacy is a false or incorrect logical principle. An argument that is based upon a logical fallacy is therefore not valid. It is important to note that if the logic of an argument is valid then the conclusion must also be valid, which means that if the premises are all true then the conclusion must also be true. Valid logic applied to one or more false premises, however, leads to an invalid argument. Also, if an argument is not valid the conclusion may, by chance, still be true. For a more thorough discussion of logical fallacies and how to structure a logical argument, see the New England Skeptical Society's article, How To Argue.

Top 20 Logical Fallacies (in alphabetical order) taken from -

The Skeptics' Guide To The Universe

The New England Skeptical Society The Skeptics' Guide To The Universe Science-Based Medicine
The James Randi Educational Foundation
Propaganda
snopes.com
Bad Science by Ben Goldacre
Simon Singh and his fight to mend British libel laws
Professor Richard Wiseman
PZ Myers' Pharyngula
Dr. Phil Plait and Bad Astronomy
Skeptic Blog
Michael Shermer's Baloney Detection Kit
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark by Carl Sagan
The Skeptics' Dictionary
List of cognitive biases
Don Watson - Weasel Words
QuackWatch
A List of Fallacious Arguments

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Comment by Sentient Biped on October 3, 2010 at 10:58pm
Are UFOs disarming nuclear devices? If so, why? And why is the government keeping this a secret?
Comment by sacha on October 1, 2010 at 12:53am

quote of the day:


"Against logic there is no armour like ignorance." -Laurence J. Peter
Comment by Sarah Walton on September 26, 2010 at 8:21am
Wittgenstein and I are pretty tight, yo.
Comment by sacha on September 25, 2010 at 11:27pm
quote of the day:

"I don't know why we are here, but I'm pretty sure that it is not in order to enjoy ourselves."

-Ludwig Wittgenstein
Comment by sacha on September 24, 2010 at 11:28pm
quote of the day:

"...From the good old days when
there were no web browsers and morons weren't "entitled" to anything."

-felch grogan
Comment by sacha on September 24, 2010 at 3:24am
quote of the day:

"There is a world of difference between calling someone a coward, based on observation of their behaviour, and calling dear old Granny a stupid cunt because she mixed up an ingredient on a recipe..."

-Stephen Moore (from here)
Comment by JayBarti on September 23, 2010 at 4:25pm
Who knows... I was asking myself what it was doing there in the first place.
Comment by sacha on September 23, 2010 at 4:24pm
why is that Chinese medicine spam still up?
Comment by sacha on September 23, 2010 at 4:23pm
quote of the day:

"I'm still waiting for news of evangelical atheists traveling to distant lands and killing people by encouraging ignorance."

-PZ Myers
Comment by JayBarti on September 23, 2010 at 4:22pm
Sigh... given the response I just don't know if it is even worth the argument.
 

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