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"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." -- Christopher Hitchens
What is a logical fallacy? All arguments have the same basic structure: A therefore B. They begin with one or more premises (A), which is a fact or assumption upon which the argument is based. They then apply a logical principle (therefore) to arrive at a conclusion (B). An example of a logical principle is that of equivalence. For example, if you begin with the premises that A=B and B=C, you can apply the logical principle of equivalence to conclude that A=C. A logical fallacy is a false or incorrect logical principle. An argument that is based upon a logical fallacy is therefore not valid. It is important to note that if the logic of an argument is valid then the conclusion must also be valid, which means that if the premises are all true then the conclusion must also be true. Valid logic applied to one or more false premises, however, leads to an invalid argument. Also, if an argument is not valid the conclusion may, by chance, still be true. For a more thorough discussion of logical fallacies and how to structure a logical argument, see the New England Skeptical Society's article, How To Argue.Top 20 Logical Fallacies (in alphabetical order) taken from -
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"No skeptic, to my knowledge, ever made a major scientific discovery or advanced the welfare of others."
-- Deepak Chopra (yes, he actually said that)
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds the most discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but That's funny..." -Isaac Asimov
The scientific world view is full of awe and wonder. Understanding how truly awesome the universe is – in its elegant complexity, its staggering beauty, and the many intricate systems of which it is comprised – gives a profound feeling of connectedness and sparks the imagination. And it has the advantage of being real. -Steven Novella
The glory which is built upon a lie soon becomes a most unpleasant incumbrance. How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and how hard it is to undo that work again.
— Mark Twain
Discussion Forum
Cheating with Science
Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on Sunday. 4 Replies 3 Likes
Information Technology amplifies irrational group behavior
Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 13. 3 Replies 1 Like
6 criteria of conspiratorial thinking
Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Humble Pie Mar 24. 3 Replies 0 Likes
Political discourse in US - fundamentally fallacious
Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by James M. Martin Mar 23. 1 Reply 2 Likes
Challenging lies doesn't work
Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joseph P Jan 25. 1 Reply 0 Likes
WHEN IS THE NEXT DOOMSDAY (NOT) GOING TO HAPPEN?
Started by Idaho Spud. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jan 10. 2 Replies 0 Likes
Apocalypse anxiety
Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by GOD'aye Jan 7. 3 Replies 1 Like
A Visual Study Guide To Cognitive Biases
Started by Little Name Atheist. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 19, 2012. 5 Replies 0 Likes
Only 1 in 10 Americans is a Global Warming Denier, Report Finds
Started by Sarah Walton. Last reply by Sarah Walton May 15, 2012. 9 Replies 1 Like
Psychic Power-NOT
Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by David Layton Apr 17, 2012. 5 Replies 0 Likes
Demon Dog: Olga Horvat Claims Her Poodle Was Possessed -- And She's Got Something To Sell You
Started by Dallas the Phallus. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 16, 2012. 12 Replies 0 Likes
Magical thinking has benefits?
Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 22, 2012. 1 Reply 1 Like
The Awesome Power of Fractal Energy Mandalas
Started by Dallas the Phallus. Last reply by Sarah Walton Mar 4, 2012. 11 Replies 1 Like
Video "Science is Real"
Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Feb 10, 2012. 0 Replies 3 Likes
How the Mind Counteracts Offensive Ideas
Started by Dallas the Phallus. Last reply by Steph S. Aug 21, 2011. 6 Replies 1 Like
Self-help author convicted of negligent homicide
Started by Dallas the Phallus. Last reply by Mike K. Jun 23, 2011. 5 Replies 0 Likes
Cognitive Biases and Handedness
Started by Dallas the Phallus Mar 18, 2011. 0 Replies 0 Likes
DNA Perfection: Unleash Your Genetic Potential NOW!
Started by Dallas the Phallus. Last reply by godfree inseaofred Dec 4, 2010. 3 Replies 0 Likes
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Comment by Susan Stanko on December 4, 2009 at 4:01pm -
gotta love the Onion.
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Comment by sacha on December 4, 2009 at 4:21pm -
The Ministry of Defence has closed its UFO unit after more than 50 ...
...In a statement, the MoD said it had "no opinion on the existence or otherwise of extra-terrestrial life".
It went on: "In over 50 years, no UFO report has revealed any evidence of a potential threat to the United Kingdom...
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Comment by sacha on December 4, 2009 at 4:24pm
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"I think it's a stupid thing to do because this could create a threat to national security," said Roy Lake, founder of the London UFO Studies group. "We take this quite seriously. We know that sometimes things can be explained as natural phenomena but there could be that one thing that's not. I think the government knows damn well what's going on up there and they're covering it up."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34277625/ns/technology_and_science-space/
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Comment by Dallas the Phallus on December 4, 2009 at 5:02pm -
"End Racism, Kill Everyone"
I used to have a bumper sticker: I don't discriminate. I hate everyone equally.
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Comment by Susan Stanko on December 4, 2009 at 7:05pm
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Comment by Фелч Гроган on December 4, 2009 at 7:21pm -
"I hate you for better reasons than you hate me" -- Jim Goad
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Comment by Susan Stanko on December 4, 2009 at 8:22pm
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Thanks :)
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Comment by Фелч Гроган on December 4, 2009 at 9:18pm
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@Susan - "we legislate for loudness". I have long been saying that, our societies have created the environment where it is no longer survival of the fittest, but of the loudest.
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Comment by Rudy V Kiist on December 4, 2009 at 10:23pm -
And a little cash don't hurt...
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Comment by Rudy V Kiist on December 4, 2009 at 10:48pm
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I gotta love my neighbours to the south. Apparently the American Defense Department thought that us Canadians were spying on them with nanotechnology on our quarters back in 2007 www.albertalocalnews.com/reddeeradvocate/news/national/Poppy_quarte...
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My first funeral as an atheist
Posted by Two Cult Survivor on May 21, 2013 at 11:30am 0 Comments 0 Likes
I posted the bulk of this on another thread, but wanted to add some context separately.
I finally confronted my faith and embraced the fact of my atheism late last August, 2012. Days after I revealed my "epiphany" to a few friends who knew me from another message board, my sister died from Lou Gehrig's Disease (which pissed her off because she hated catching a disease from someone she never f---ed).
THAT was my sister, understand? She was a beautiful, life-loving, potty-mouthed…
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Death of a family member
Posted by Larry Taylor on May 20, 2013 at 8:15pm 7 Comments 2 Likes
OK. I am venting. My mother died two weeks ago. She was a “god fearing christian.” Before her death she refused all medical treatment. She wanted to be left alone. She even refused to speak with my brother who is a methodist minister. He is a pip, let me tell you! I suspect she did not believe, but a woman born in her time could not and did not state her actual beliefs. This is the opening salvo to all christians; FUCK YOU! I had so many people come and tell…
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Unbelievable!!!!!!!!
Posted by Christy Stewart on May 20, 2013 at 2:17pm 6 Comments 0 Likes
This probably should not have shocked me as much as it did (especially since I am in Texas). I actually thought my coworkers were playing a joke on me because they know I am an atheist. Sadly, this was no joke. This actually happened.
I work in a psychiatric hospital. The doctors who admit patients are general MDs. (Psychiatrists see patients after admission) Yesterday evening we received several calls from irate parents. A new doctor who was doing admissions yesterday actually…
Continue anti-atheist rant from an Orthodox Mormon part 2
Posted by Debra Stevenson on May 20, 2013 at 1:09pm 3 Comments 1 Like
What do you think of this,
Nathan Young,
No Jason Torpy it is you that should be banned for promoting atheism, a belief that has no foundation in reality and zero proof behind it. The letter was a mockery of your atheist beliefs. I request to the board here that they remove Jason for his unverifiable beliefs in atheism for which he has no proof other than his arrogance. The letter was a mockery of atheism. Atheism is stupid and it should be mocked and it…
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