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"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." -- Christopher Hitchens

What is a logical fallacy? All arguments have the same basic structure: A therefore B. They begin with one or more premises (A), which is a fact or assumption upon which the argument is based. They then apply a logical principle (therefore) to arrive at a conclusion (B). An example of a logical principle is that of equivalence. For example, if you begin with the premises that A=B and B=C, you can apply the logical principle of equivalence to conclude that A=C. A logical fallacy is a false or incorrect logical principle. An argument that is based upon a logical fallacy is therefore not valid. It is important to note that if the logic of an argument is valid then the conclusion must also be valid, which means that if the premises are all true then the conclusion must also be true. Valid logic applied to one or more false premises, however, leads to an invalid argument. Also, if an argument is not valid the conclusion may, by chance, still be true. For a more thorough discussion of logical fallacies and how to structure a logical argument, see the New England Skeptical Society's article, How To Argue.

Top 20 Logical Fallacies (in alphabetical order) taken from -

The Skeptics' Guide To The Universe

The New England Skeptical Society The Skeptics' Guide To The Universe Science-Based Medicine
The James Randi Educational Foundation
Propaganda
snopes.com
Bad Science by Ben Goldacre
Simon Singh and his fight to mend British libel laws
Professor Richard Wiseman
PZ Myers' Pharyngula
Dr. Phil Plait and Bad Astronomy
Skeptic Blog
Michael Shermer's Baloney Detection Kit
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark by Carl Sagan
The Skeptics' Dictionary
List of cognitive biases
Don Watson - Weasel Words
QuackWatch
A List of Fallacious Arguments

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Comment by Jason Spicer on July 24, 2010 at 2:04pm
Nicely done, Christopher.
Comment by Christopher on July 24, 2010 at 6:03am


Goooood mornin', ya godless heathens!
Comment by Christopher on July 23, 2010 at 10:20pm
"Blasphemy? No, it is not blasphemy. If God is as vast as that, he is above blasphemy; if He is as
little as that, He is beneath it."
Mark Twain
Comment by Christopher on July 23, 2010 at 6:15am
I've become convinced that Jesus is actually in jail. All the inmates seem to find him rather suddenly when they check in, and loose him rather suddenly when they check out.
Jason.. thanks for that comment.. it just gave me an idea for another mot poster.
Comment by sacha on July 23, 2010 at 5:20am
quote of the day:

I'm not asleep...
but that doesn't mean I'm awake.

-Author Unknown
Comment by Jason Spicer on July 21, 2010 at 6:58pm
Dang, Christopher. I searched for Jesus everywhere; did not think to look in rehab. Of course, anybody that can turn water into wine might develop a bit of an indulgence for the sauce.
Comment by sacha on July 21, 2010 at 3:17pm
quote of the day:

"Religion, unlike ethnicity, skin colour or disability, is a choice. As it's a choice its outward expression can be limited if it conflicts with the freedoms of others. Remove the privilege of protection from criticism and the influence and power of the religions should wane."

-funk Q
Comment by Christopher on July 20, 2010 at 8:55pm
I'm a bit of a amateur photographer, and will spend some time looking for a picture I really like to make my little posters with. I loved that one. I can't tell if he's "Goin Brokeback Mountain" or if he's Faustas whispering in the Devil's ear, because, if he did find Jesus in rehab, he's sold his "soul" one way or the other. I finally got the website all the way up, so now I'm back to playing with the mot posters.

I TOLD you there was no way I could resist using that quote of yours. I wouldn't be surprised if I used some more, but, of course, they will always be properly credited. I'm definitely going to have to do one about his mentor, Lee Atwater. Talk about a waste of human flesh...
Comment by Jason Spicer on July 20, 2010 at 4:44pm
Sure Eraserhead is symbolic. Of what, nobody knows. As far as I can tell, it's no more than an experiment in bringing a dreamscape to celluloid. I think it succeeds at that, but I don't think dreams mean much, generally.

I know Hollywood keeps two sets of books--one to show investors that they are making big money, and one to show the creative people that they're not. Isn't keeping two sets of books what got Al Capone in trouble?

I love the photo of W whispering sweet nothings in Rove's ear. Usually it was the other way 'round. Nice to know it wasn't unrequited love.
Comment by Christopher on July 20, 2010 at 2:26pm
re: Bill,
I have to side with Bill on this one. I've found movies to be entertaining, or visually pleasing, or have found characters or dialogue that I was fond of, but I've just never really had any apreciation of movies as an art form in the slightest.

And for my QOTD entry, allow me to submit the below listed "Spicerism". hehehehe

 

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