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"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." -- Christopher Hitchens

What is a logical fallacy? All arguments have the same basic structure: A therefore B. They begin with one or more premises (A), which is a fact or assumption upon which the argument is based. They then apply a logical principle (therefore) to arrive at a conclusion (B). An example of a logical principle is that of equivalence. For example, if you begin with the premises that A=B and B=C, you can apply the logical principle of equivalence to conclude that A=C. A logical fallacy is a false or incorrect logical principle. An argument that is based upon a logical fallacy is therefore not valid. It is important to note that if the logic of an argument is valid then the conclusion must also be valid, which means that if the premises are all true then the conclusion must also be true. Valid logic applied to one or more false premises, however, leads to an invalid argument. Also, if an argument is not valid the conclusion may, by chance, still be true. For a more thorough discussion of logical fallacies and how to structure a logical argument, see the New England Skeptical Society's article, How To Argue.

Top 20 Logical Fallacies (in alphabetical order) taken from -

The Skeptics' Guide To The Universe

The New England Skeptical Society The Skeptics' Guide To The Universe Science-Based Medicine
The James Randi Educational Foundation
Propaganda
snopes.com
Bad Science by Ben Goldacre
Simon Singh and his fight to mend British libel laws
Professor Richard Wiseman
PZ Myers' Pharyngula
Dr. Phil Plait and Bad Astronomy
Skeptic Blog
Michael Shermer's Baloney Detection Kit
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark by Carl Sagan
The Skeptics' Dictionary
List of cognitive biases
Don Watson - Weasel Words
QuackWatch
A List of Fallacious Arguments

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Comment by Patricia on July 21, 2014 at 2:05pm

Free Kindle download at amazon.....

Why Our Children Will Be Atheists:

The Last 100 Years of Religion, and the Dawn of a World without Gods Paperback – December 14, 2013

Comment by TNT666 on July 12, 2014 at 1:20am

I use a very small software called Cyber Ghost to view streaming from other countries. It slows things down some, but it's free

Comment by Patricia on July 11, 2014 at 6:18pm

Michael,

I just looked ROKU up & found this at amazon.ca.....is this a good idea?

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Roku Stick Streaming Player 3500CA, Purple


Price: CDN$ 59.99 & FREE Shipping
Compact stick design. Plugs discreetly right into the HDMI port. Great for wall-mounted TVs
  • 700+ entertainment channels and counting. By far the most movies, sports, news, music and kids' shows of any streaming player
  • Control with remote or mobile. You can choose to control your entertainment via your iOS or Android device. Or use the included remote that everybody can share. It's your choice
  • Send to TV from mobile. Use mobile apps, such as Netflix and YouTube, to cast videos from your phone straight to your TV
  • Stunning HD video quality. Immerse yourself in the action with rich, vibrant video streaming up to 1080p HD
Comment by Patricia on July 11, 2014 at 5:37pm

Thanks Michael, I definitely want to be checking this channel out!

Comment by Michael Penn on July 11, 2014 at 5:29pm

In case you do not get it in Canada, do a Google search with words like "how to watch the Atheist Channel online."

Comment by Patricia on July 11, 2014 at 5:22pm

Not to mention I'm in Canada so may not get it at all.

Comment by Patricia on July 11, 2014 at 5:18pm

Since I am not a techie, I have no idea what any of that means so I hope I can just get it on the computer.

Comment by Michael Penn on July 11, 2014 at 4:35pm

Thank you, Patricia, for that bit about Atheist TV. I see that it's streaming and they claim you can get it with a Roku box. Chances are that I can get it with my XBMC even though some factions of that are splitting. They want you to "chose sides" and I have effectively chosen both of them. I can stream almost anything that I want to at any time that I want to. Atheist TV will be big on my list.

Comment by Patricia on July 11, 2014 at 2:41pm

Atheist tv channel to be up & running at the end of the month......

http://atheists.org/atheisttv

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on June 6, 2014 at 12:39pm
 

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