No Nonsense Posting Guidelines blah blah

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Permalink Reply by Jaume on November 27, 2009 at 4:04am

Feel free to award a Schopie wherever you see derailing in this group -

This is an excellent idea. Yet I have a feeling that, as that other guy would say, "as a No Nonsense discussion grows longer, the probability of someone being given a Schopie approaches 1."

Permalink Reply by Jim DePaulo on December 15, 2009 at 11:49am

fetch Do you consider derailing a thread the same as hijacking a thread or is that a different "troll trait" ?

Permalink Reply by Фелч Гроган on December 16, 2009 at 4:19am

Thread-jacking generally has a motive and a purpose. Derailing is usually either vandalism, insanity or a get-out-of-jail-free ploy. X-ref Ms. Homan, the derailing Queen, who has chosen to leave our misogenyst, rape apologist circles. She was the Serdar Argic of victim feminism and is worthy of a case study in her own right. Both have the same result.

Permalink Reply by Sentient Biped on December 19, 2009 at 1:14pm

Felch,

Thanks for the timely reminder. The copyright issues are especially relevant - I think I need to go back and look at some of my own posts. Sometimes it's difficult to know - if an image comes up on a google image search, there might be dozens of similar images, none of which can be traced back to the origin. Even so, I think that if we want to avoid legal issues, which I suppose could even lead to the site being taken down, we need to be diligent.

I see no harm in someone sending a message to the author of a post, reminding them that their wholesale copying of an article may violate copyright law. Certainly, I'm no lawyer, but I've sent a few people messages asking that they consider just copying a short piece and linking to the original article. The excuse that comes back is that readers don't want to bother with clicking on a link - this is a bullshit excuse.

Permalink Reply by sacha on December 19, 2009 at 2:04pm

When I first joined A/N I posted entire articles, always with a link to to source, but often too much content in the post. I need to go back and edit as well.

...but I've sent a few people messages asking that they consider just copying a short piece and linking to the original article.

I would have appreciated a note. I see nothing wrong with reminding those who post too much content. The repercussions of copyright infringement could affect all of us.

Permalink Reply by Sentient Biped on December 19, 2009 at 2:10pm

For the groups that I moderate, I'm trying to decide if I need to change the group icons. One is my own photo so no problem. I may need to find something in wikimedia commons. Also, I need to go through the posts that others have left in those groups - it's probably up to me to make sure they are removed.

Permalink Reply by Jason Spicer on December 19, 2009 at 2:29pm

It's a good idea to remind people of fair use and citation rules, but I'm not sure I'd sweat too much over the prospect of A|N getting shut down. Copyright infringement actions are usually begun with a cease and desist letter. If the offending material is removed, that's usually the end of it. It's not like there are copyright police running around; individual copyright holders have to do their own enforcement.

Permalink Reply by Фелч Гроган on December 19, 2009 at 6:49pm

Yes - do not overreact. That is playing into the copyright fascists hands. If they know you are terrified, they'll only send more take down notices. Note YouTube / DMCA idiocy.

Discouraging bulk block paste jobs is more to discourage people who just dump slabs of text without contributing anything themselves.

I copied more than would normally be acceptable of Shermer's fallacies. But I deemed it necessary for coherence and there is no linkable copy. I did ask y'all to buy it in our defense of the use.