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to David Moxon, Bishop of Waikato, New Zealand
date Apr 5, 2009 10:50 AM
subject Unconfirmation


As a fifteen-year old in 1977 I was pressured into being confirmed into the Anglican "communion", despite my doubts and strong feelings that it was a primitive rite-of-passage ceremony enforced by tradition but with no modern meaning.

Now, as a strong atheist, I want to be officially unconfirmed, and my name removed from any roll or record associated with the ceremony.

Can you please inform me how I can do this?


date Apr 6, 2009 9:24 AM
subject RE: Unconfirmation

Dear ,

greetings to you. Thank you for your enquiry. I respect your integrity and the good reasons you have for wanting to correct a record. In the Anglican church we don't have a facility for undoing a confirmation, because we respect the right of an individual to exercise a freedom of conscience in spiritual matters. So your feeling now that you were not and are not confirmed in a real way is respected as real by us.

If you would like you name removed from the record because it is null and void and not real at the time, this annulment is done by asking the register of the Diocese where it occurred to delete your name from our record. We would need the name, date and location of the the church where this occurred. Do send these through and we will action this.

With best wishes
David Moxon
Bishop of Waikato


to David Moxon
date Sep 26, 2009 12:36 PM
subject Re: Unconfirmation


I would like to have my name removed from the confirmation register.

It has not been easy to get the necessary details - the best I could discover was that I was confirmed in 1976 at the Kings College Capel by The Right Reverend S.N.Spence, who was the Assistant Bishop of Auckland at the time. This information was provided by Warner Wilder.

In your earlier email you wrote, "we don't have a facility for undoing a confirmation". This seems like a major oversight, considering that this affirmation is a very public event in a young person's life. It is entirely unbalanced that such a public display could not be equally publicly renounced!

You also wrote "we respect the right of an individual to exercise a freedom of conscience in spiritual matters". Do you mean the Anglican Church no longer performs baptisms and confirmations on individuals who do not have the awareness or autonomy to choose for themselves?

Or maybe not.

Rather, I think you support an intellectually and morally bankrupt system that enables public affirmation, but merely private renunciation. Well, atheists such as myself will not be silenced any more!

I expect you to have my name removed from your files, particularly regarding this confirmation, and to provide evidence that this has been done.



Tags: unbaptism, unconfirmation

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From: David Moxon
Date: Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:02 AM
Subject: RE: Unconfirmation

Thank you for your response and information. I will arrange for your name to be removed from the register at ---- College Chapel as requested.

You asked whether the Anglican church performs baptisms and confirmations for people who do not have an awareness of the meaning of these things or freedom of choice for themselves. Please be assured that this is not our policy; for older children and teenagers and adults these are important principles which we seek to uphold.

Thank you for your honesty and integrity which I respect

Yours sincerely

David Moxon
Bishop of Waikato
Sent: Mon 28/09/2009 9:19 AM
To: David Moxon
Subject: RE: Unconfirmation


I appreciate your response.

Just to clarify, are you saying that the Anglican Church no longer performs baptisms on babies? I am surprised at that, if I understand correctly.


From: David Moxon
Sent: Mon 28/09/2009 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: Unconfirmation

Yes we do still offer baptism for babies, on the understanding that they
will be introduced to and nurtured in the faith by their parent and or
godparent. They get to confirm this choice in confirmation if they wish
as older children or teenagers or adults. They may choose not to of
course and the offer of confirmation today invites a real consideration
of whether they feel it is right for them. The confirmation candidates I
meet seem to be making a free and rational choice, and many choose not

I hope this helps clarify our position a little more. Thank you for your

Yours sincerely
David Moxon


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