The World's Largest Coalition of Nontheists and Nontheist Communities!
Naturalism is the understanding that there is a single, natural world as shown by science, and that we are completely included in it. - Thomas W Clark
Latest Activity: Nov 10
Started by J J. Last reply by Luara Feb 23.
Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by amer chohan Feb 26, 2013.
Started by J J. Last reply by Alice May 8, 2012.
I hear you. Knowledge of nature is not experience of nature. Regarding the experiential and existential aspect of naturalism— Ajita Kamal, the late founder of this Atheist Nexus Naturalism group, had this to say:“It is a pleasant thought to know that we are not as divided it seems. It’s this common story we share that brings us together to ‘rejoice’ at the idea of existence. This feeling is not new. I had always wondered at the natural universe and have never ceased to be humbled by it. But now, I am starting to actually feel something that I thought I had lost forever. I am starting to feel like I belong.” —Ajita Kamal 1978-2011
As best I can describe, "it" would be our place within the natural world. We have traded a lot of time, energy, and in many ways sanity in order to obtain the knowledge of the outside looking in. We're beggining to come full circle (in my oppinion) to understanding and naming a way of life that, granted there are many ways to live that fit here, just was.
That's a great question, but what exactly do you mean by "it"? I think you mean the natural earth out of which our kind evolved.
Thanks for the response!
I agree Mike. Categorizing is what makes us what we are. There would be no reasoning if we didn't have mental files to group things in. There would be no understanding. Additionally, being social creatures, we thrive in the comfort of a group. While I'm at it, I may as well concede how much I enjoy our cultures current (and hopefully future) expanding knowledge of our natural world.
I believe you've helped to hone my actual question.
I've recently spent a few months in some of the more remote parts of Africas interior, and made what I thought to be an interesting comparison between our cultures. Granted, there are monumental differences in technology, and knowledge, and every culture I encountered had been influenced by colonialism. But, at no point did anyone feel the need to consider themselves anything but their tribe.
They live within the means that nature allows, sustainably (minus over-hunting in some areas thanks to shotguns), but far and away more natural than the "greenest" Americans. I guess after all that, my question would be better worded as: "Are we better off knowing it or living it?"
Hi Jeff and welcome. Names and categories (concepts) are essential to human cognition and language. We can't think, let alone speak without them. I agree that we humans have been loosing our connection to our natural earth which is a shame, but science (methodological naturalism) has in my opinion radically increased our understanding of nature.
Everyone has a top concept— a category that includes all one's categories. For some it is God, or Dharma, or the spirit world. My top concept is nature. But I don't worship it or pray to it or get angry at it. I just want to better understand it.
So long as I don't spam it, I don't think messaging about naturalism can make me what I oppose.
I have a question. Don't get me wrong; I have no intention of undermining anyones motivation for categorizing themselves into a group of like minded people. I too share the same ideals expressed in/through Naturalism. What really intrigues me is the need for a name, and a category. It's like the saying, "If sense was common, they wouldn't have a name for it." I realize for thousands of years, we've been evolving our culture towards our current way of thinking, all the while loosing our connection to, and understanding of, our world. I also understand how uncommon this way of thinking seems to be, but it seems like we are idolizing something that should just "be". How do you get a message or point across without becoming what you oppose?
Hi Tabitha. Welcome to naturalism. In a nutshell, philosophical naturalism is the view that nature is probably the ultimate order of being, and that nature is enough to account for all of the order and complexity that we experience.
Hello, all! I'm new here :) I'm also new to the naturalist philosophy in general, growing up in a theistic household my whole life. I look forward to our conversations :) the vids were great! :D
Come and like this Page:
This Facebook page has been set up in anticipation for the new book currently being written - The Free Will Illusion - a book about the Naturalistic Worldview - the implications of naturalism and ideas about how to integrate the naturalistic worldview into your life - please come and have a look - the links posted are all related to research done in writing the book.
Welcome toAtheist Nexus
Sign Upor Sign In
Or sign in with:
© 2014 Atheist Nexus. All rights reserved. Admin: Richard Haynes.
Report an Issue |
Terms of Service
Please check your browser settings or contact your system administrator.