Michigan Atheists

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Michigan Atheists

Group for atheists in Michigan... the only state shaped like a giant mitten.

Location: michigan
Members: 153
Latest Activity: Aug 4

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anyone around the madison heights,warren royal oak area?

Started by michael piusinski. Last reply by Michael Pianko Jul 16. 2 Replies

Cadillac/Manistee/T.C. Area

Started by Lorene K Johnson. Last reply by Lorene K Johnson Jul 8. 3 Replies

Portage / Kalamazoo

Started by Brandon Captain. Last reply by Chad Horvath Mar 13, 2012. 1 Reply

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Comment by Ruthe on November 27, 2009 at 11:12am
The 12/5/09 Michigan Atheists State Convention is now on the Events list just in case you'd like to get the information from there at http://www.atheistnexus.org/events/michigan-atheists-state. Hope you can join us! I'd like to meet some AN MAs! Let me know if you're going!
Comment by Curtis Edward Clark on November 13, 2009 at 8:17am
Last April I started a Google group for atheists in AA. I did not work with it or advertize it after getting involved in some other things I could not get out of. But the group is http://groups.google.com/group/atheist-aa and I invite any and all agnostics/atheists in AA to join.
Comment by Pansy on October 29, 2009 at 7:05pm
habman, yes, i agree with what you've said. you happened to have said it better than me :D.......and you're right too, i don't hate xians, but because it's difficult, if not sometimes impossible, to talk to them rationally, i just assume not speak with them; at least where religion is concerned.....i agree with eric, too, that having a group where you can relate to others is needed. i don't feel he was excluding anyone, but rather looking for specific people with whom he is able to share. just as i may seek out other atheist mothers, philosophers etc....
Comment by Habman on October 29, 2009 at 4:53pm
amelia_e, I think you understand where I am coming from. You can't discount a group then expect that group to feel comfortable with you. Doesn't happen.

We should be looking for unity with others. There are right and wrong ways to go about achieving common goals.

I am an atheist, however I isn't my wish for religion to disappear, just that is plays no part in my life.

People should be free to believe as they wish without interference from others that believe differently.

If I voice my opinion, it is just that my opinion where we run into problems is when people believe that their opinions should carry the force of law.

It is that simple.
Comment by Pansy on October 29, 2009 at 4:19pm
eric, RE:
"' I was at the same sex wedding of my sister in law a few years ago where there was a group of lesbians saying the most ignorant, vicious things about straight people and then wondering why they are not accepted in society."'
Just like atheists "dissing" xians. all thoughts are based on assumptions, instead of getting to know them (group).
Comment by Eric on October 29, 2009 at 4:02pm
Amelia,

There's a Gay Atheist group on Atheist Nexus. I think your question would be a terrific one to post on their wall, I'd be curious to see what the various reactions might be. Join that group, post that question, see what the replies might be, then when you're done, leave that group, or stay and ask other questions.

But I think that most queers are the products of straight folks. Most gays have more straight than gay relatives. Unless they work in a gay group most of their coworkers will likely be straight too. Most gays who have kids have straight kids. Neighbors, storekeepers, city officials, etc. So they don't need to hear from other gays, they can see plenty of straight folks with their own eyes and even in their own homes. I'm not sure why gays would necessarily think bad things about straight folks in general. Maybe you could clarify your question further?
Comment by Eric on October 29, 2009 at 3:53pm
TinaFCD,

You didn't offend me at all. In fact I think I was looking more at the other posters' comments, not even at yours. When I saw your post I was puzzled so I even had to look up your post.
Comment by Pansy on October 29, 2009 at 2:24pm
i just had a thought, reading the last few posts..... do gays look at straight people the way atheists look at xians? ........meaning, do gay people think straight people are freaks and assume all sorts of bad things about them and their lives, based on what they've heard from others......

i realize this is not the proper forum for this question, but, maybe eric could answer that......i love gay guys, i think they're hilarious. in a good way, i mean, not degrading. every one i've ever met is so funny and sensative and compassionate.
Comment by TinaFCD on October 29, 2009 at 2:14pm
Holy shi$! Can I swear here? :)
If you go back and read my comment, I was trying to be funny, but not. I don't really think there should be a label for ANY of us. I am totally for what Eric posted. I have many family members that are gay or Bi.
I was just being funny, seriously!
So sorry to cause a feud or disagreement here. So sorry, I love this site.
I am all for gay rights, I hope that one day EVERYONE will be able to marry, no matter if it's the opposite sex.
Again, sorry Eric, to you especially!
Comment by Eric on October 29, 2009 at 1:04pm
Habman, you said, "Too often the LGBT community pulls away from society as a whole, then wonders why they are not included."

No, in fact, it's the other way around, in order to get a community's own issues better addressed sometimes it's much better to pull away from other groups until these issues are resolved. Only when no issues remain to be addressed will such groups cease to exist. This isn't a phenomenon particular to the LGBT community.
 

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