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Atheists working / interested in the medical / health arena including psych. Discussion about abortion, right to die, suicide, the interference of religion in healthcare etc etc

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Comment by Avicenna on August 21, 2011 at 9:32am
I find it easier to ignore them. See they won't understand that it's human effort that helped them. No matter how much you point they will cling to their idea. Infact  they will cling harder the more you point! 

Sorry to hear about the Lupus thing mate. But many people think prayer helps and I don't think we should be the ones to correct them.

Put it this way, imagine going to a hospital to deal with the severe illness of one of our loved one only to have some douchebag doctor snort when we thank him asking us to thank the lord instead. It's just picking fights with people who have more to worry about than the supposed state of their eternal souls. (The current state of their very mortal and very temporary bodies for example...)

Just ignore it and smile, you can't change their minds and all you are doing is making them not like you. If they trample your belief then be my guest to wail on them, if they don't care and just say things like "praise jehovah/allah/vishnu" then respond with a silly "and Merck/Astra Zeneca/Bayer" to go with them.
Comment by Michael Caton on August 20, 2011 at 10:01pm

Maybe we should encourage people to thank medical workers for their training and dedication.  Then if they say "Jesus/Odin/etc. helped me do it" you can tell them that you give them more credit than they give themselves.

Also via Friendly Atheist, a relevant anecdote:

http://notalwaysright.com/the-devil-you-know/13207

Comment by unholyroller on August 20, 2011 at 9:54pm
Ah...Charles...I feel your frustration.  I'm very, very good at starting IVs and without fail...when I get a line in on an especially difficult-to-access patient the response is "Thank ya Jeeezus"......I want to tell thes cretins that Jeeezus didn't start their IV, I did, but I still need to work so I usually bite my tongue......I live in Oklahoma, so, as you can imagine...my poor tongue is just about chewed off.
Comment by Charles Cusumano on August 20, 2011 at 8:59pm
OK, it happened (again; ad nauseum). I was taking care of a kid with an injured ankle. Xrays were negative. I told Mom and she said, wait for it, "Thank You Jesus". I said "jesus had nothing to do with it". Oh yes he did"was her retort. Having had enough of this simple minded babble, I said " so where was he when she fell? why didn't he prevenT that?" "So you think that he took a quick look at her ankle and decided it would be sprained and not broken?" As expected the conversation, if you could call talking to a closed mind a conversation, made a downward spiral. I wis I could let this shit lie but it just makes me grit my teeth and want to slap sense into some folk.
Comment by Charles Cusumano on August 10, 2011 at 6:15pm
well now, It seems praying at the beach saved a 12 year old kid after he drowned. Glad the kid is OK but praying had nothing to do with it. Why didn’t they jump into the sea and save the kid. If god was around he would have helped. Ignorance just kills me.
Comment by TNT666 on July 30, 2011 at 2:25am

The ASR [Cobalt Artificial Hip replacement] was approved for use by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in 2005. However, it was cleared through a regulatory pathway [loophole] that  did NOT require it to undergo clinical trials.

 

Canadians have joined USA lawsuits against DePuy.

The lawsuit claims the defendants failed to disclose or warn Canadian patients of the significant risk of implant failure. "The defendants were aware of many complaints made to the Food and Drug Administration in the United States and Health Canada regarding the failure of the DePuy implants."

 

More on cobalt toxicity in the Medical Journal of Australia, and the journal of Human and Experimental Toxicology.

Comment by Audra Ray on May 25, 2011 at 10:19pm
Anyone on here a physical or occupational therapist?
Comment by Rhonda Floyd on March 23, 2011 at 12:17pm
Dialysis tech. in TX, buckle of the bible belt. I'm not so good at holding my tongue. We had a patient who was cramping horribly due to high fluid gain, she kept yelling, "Help me God". I told her she would be better off calling a new name, since she had already, more than likely, asked god to cure her kidney failure, her diabetes, and save her from having both legs amputated. OOPS!
Comment by Michael Caton on March 23, 2011 at 11:04am
We have a lot of people on here so why don't we start giving locations and roles?  If you're somewhere that you feel insecure about identifying yourself too clearly, give only as much as you like.  I'm Michael Caton, second year medical student at University of California San Diego, considering neurology, psychiatry or anesthesia.
Comment by Pam on February 15, 2011 at 7:43am
Hi- I've been away for a while- been ill- but now I'm back :)
 

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