Recovering from the side effects of Christian fundamentalism is not easy.
•The ongoing fear of Hell
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Comment by GOD'aye on June 4, 2013 at 7:07pm No YEC theologians (trained liars) have any scientific evidence, just glib subjective observations like, it appears to be designed. They have drawn all their concepts from apparent design. It's all they really have to back up their Genesis based lies.
Comment by Idaho Spud on June 3, 2013 at 8:12am Matt, it sounds like the YEC theologian had no scientific evidence that he knew would convince you, so he just copped-out, like most do.
Comment by Richard Goscicki on June 3, 2013 at 6:14am I’ve been saying that all along, Joan—even in Mirror Reversal. The universe is indifferent to us and belief in the contrary has resulted in a deadening stagnation and stultification of human progress. It’s taken from Stephen Jay Gould’s punctuated equilibrium. We in an evolutionary plateau and are now beginning to bring away and continuing to evolve through science.
Comment by Joan Denoo on June 3, 2013 at 1:31am Richard Goscicki, I agree, we are seeing a shift to a higher plane of existence as humans. We are not in a revolution, we are in an evolution.
Comment by Matt Skaggs on June 2, 2013 at 11:35pm I just put up a blog post regarding my recent attempted debate over creationism with a YEC theologian. I thought some people here might find it helpful and/or insightful, since it springs from my own past in Fundamentalist Christianity. Let me know what you guys think.
Comment by Hiram on May 14, 2013 at 12:19pm http://thenewhumanism.org/authors/hiram-crespo/articles/that-old-ti...
The above piece was written for thenewhumanism.org, an affiliate of Harvard Univ., on the revival of the Epicurean philosophical tradition. I'm sharing it here because a lot of the therapeutic work that Epicureans did revolved around helping people overcome the vestiges of fear-based religion and many of you might find it useful. The webpage for our group is societyofepicurus.com.
Comment by Idaho Spud on January 2, 2013 at 11:38am Thanks Ed. I'd never heard of them before, but I found some of his letters and read them. What an excellent job he does!
Comment by Susan C on January 1, 2013 at 7:34pm Wow Jason I am so happy for you... I was indoctrinated for about 30 years too and it was hard to walk away from, but the relief is indescribable... We can be "Good without god"... :)
Richard, that verse it actually so stupid it's humorous.
It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Yes I agree Richard that the bible is so horrid that you can see why humans are so messed up. The bible is just not ethical. Why do people follow that crap? Ok - I will click on that link.
Comment by Richard Goscicki on January 1, 2013 at 1:07pm Steph, I was just thinking about that piece. All Barbara did was read the Bible and use a magic marker on all the stupid and/or crazy quotations. It’s beautiful in its simplicity.
Here’s a favorite of mine I was thinking about:
Deut. 25:11,12 - A woman who seizes a man's genitals, even to defend her husband from an attacker, must have her hand cut off.
What weird mentality could come up with a moral directive like the above? Let me get this straight, I asked my self. My wife and I sitting by the fireplace enjoying the pleasures of connubial life, when the door opens and some intruder, some guttersnipe, barges in.
You, being closer to the door, bravely jump up to confront the trespasser and by accident in the heat of the turmoil, happen to grab his dick! I then jump up and hit the blackguard with a frying pan that just happens to be handy to fry hot dogs in the fireplace.
Knocked out cold, we blow the whistle; the authorities come and carry the malefactor off to jail.
But then by the Bible’s direction (it is the word of God, you know, so I must obey) I sadly say, “I’m sorry, my dear, but Deuteronomy 25: 11,12 commands me to you’re your hand off at the wrist so you won’t be able to grab any more dicks, (and if it were a big one, schlongs. Yiddish can be so handy sometime.)
No wonder human history is so screwed up. There’s no moral guide other that this Bible horseshit.
If anyone would like to read Barbara’s entire compilation, it’s the epilogue to Mirror Reversal. Click on the “Atheist Novel” to the right. It’s worth five bucks just to read the entire list. It doesn’t get any funnier and crazier than this. Albert Camus had it right, “The world is surreal.”
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