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Comment by Larry Fiehn on November 28, 2010 at 10:36am
Bowling Green Freethinkers Meetup next meeting will be on Sunday, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:00 AM. The program will be followed by a fish fry dinner! The info is at http://www.meetup.com/Bowling-Green-Freethinkers or contact me for more information.
Comment by Lina Baker on November 24, 2010 at 10:01am
I grew up in Kentucky -- I haven't lived there in many years, but just want to say how great it is to see a Kentucky atheist group.
Comment by Brian Sperger on November 17, 2010 at 8:51am
Looking forward to seeing Brother Sam tonight.
If any of you are going, I will buy a drink for the first person to mention Atheist Nexus to me.
Comment by Brian Sperger on November 11, 2010 at 8:52pm
OK...If anyone is still on this page... Sam Singleton "The Atheist Evangelist" will be putting on a Free show Wednesday November 17th at McCarthy's Irish Bar (117 S. Upper St.) in Lexington at 8:00pm. You have no excuse….Its FREE!!
Comment by Larry Fiehn on September 24, 2010 at 1:44pm
We are re-energizing an atheist/freethinker group in Bowling Green. I'll be happy to share the info with anyone who wishes it. Our next in person meeting will be Nov 14, 2010.
Comment by Phil Greer on August 17, 2010 at 4:43pm
KABUL, Afghanistan — The Taliban on Sunday ordered their first public executions by stoning since their fall from power nine years ago, killing a young couple who had eloped, according to Afghan officials and a witness.


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The punishment was carried out by hundreds of the victims’ neighbors in a village in northern Kunduz Province, according to Nadir Khan, 40, a local farmer and Taliban sympathizer, who was interviewed by telephone. Even family members were involved, both in the stoning and in tricking the couple into returning after they had fled.

Mr. Khan said that as a Taliban mullah prepared to read the judgment of a religious court, the lovers, a 25-year-old man named Khayyam and a 19-year-old woman named Siddiqa, defiantly confessed in public to their relationship. “They said, ‘We love each other no matter what happens,’ ” Mr. Khan said.

The executions were the latest in a series of cases where the Taliban have imposed their harsh version of Shariah law for social crimes, reminiscent of their behavior during their decade of ruling the country. In recent years, Taliban officials have sought to play down their bloody punishments of the past, as they concentrated on building up popular support.

“We see it as a sign of a new confidence on the part of the Taliban in the application of their rules, like they did in the ’90s,” said Nader Nadery, a senior commissioner on the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission. “We do see it as a trend. They’re showing more strength in recent months, not just in attacks, but including their own way of implementing laws, arbitrary and extrajudicial killings.”

The stoning deaths, along with similarly brazen attacks in northern Afghanistan, were also a sign of growing Taliban strength in parts of the country where, until recently, they had been weak or absent. In their home regions in southern Afghanistan, Mr. Nadery said, the Taliban have already been cracking down.

“We’ve seen a big increase in intimidation of women and more strict rules on women,” he said.

Perhaps most worrisome were signs of support for the action from mainstream religious authorities in Afghanistan. The head of the Ulema Council in Kunduz Province, Mawlawi Abdul Yaqub, interviewed by telephone, said Monday that stoning to death was the appropriate punishment for an illegal sexual relationship, although he declined to give his view on this particular case. An Ulema Council is a body of Islamic clerics with religious authority in a region.

And less than a week earlier, the national Ulema Council brought together 350 religious scholars in a meeting with government religious officials, who issued a joint statement on Aug. 10 calling for more punishment under Shariah law, apparently referring to stoning, amputations and lashings.

Failure to carry out such “Islamic provisions,” the council statement said, was hindering the peace process and encouraging crime.

The controversy could have implications for efforts by Afghan officials to reconcile with Taliban leaders and draw them into power-sharing talks.

Afghan officials, supported by Western countries, have insisted that Taliban leaders would have to accept the Afghan Constitution, which guarantees women’s rights, and not expect a return to Shariah law.

The stoning deaths were confirmed by Afghan officials in the area on Monday. Mahbubullah Sayedi, a spokesman for the Kunduz governor’s office, condemned the executions, and said there was ample provision in Afghan law for prosecuting someone if they were accused of adultery or other social crimes.

“We have courts here, and we can solve such cases through our judicial organizations,” he said. “This act is against human rights and against our national Constitution.”

The couple eloped when the man was unable to persuade family members to allow him to marry the young woman. She was engaged to marry a relative of her lover, but was unwilling to do so, according to Mr. Khan.

Mohammed Ayub, the governor of nearby Imam Sahib district, also confirmed the stoning deaths, which took place in the local bazaar in Mullah Quli village, in Archi district, a remote corner of Kunduz Province close to Tajikistan.

The couple eloped to Kunar Province, in eastern Afghanistan, staying with distant relatives, but family members persuaded them to return to their village, promising to allow them to marry. (Afghan men are legally allowed to marry up to four wives). Once back in Kunduz, however, they were seized by the Taliban, who convened local mullahs from surrounding villages for a religious court.

After the Taliban proclaimed the sentence, Siddiqa, dressed in the head-to-toe Afghan burqa, and Khayyam, who had a wife and two young children, were encircled by the male-only crowd in the bazaar. Taliban activists began stoning them first, then villagers joined in until they killed first Siddiqa and then Khayyam, Mr. Khan said. No women were allowed to attend, he said.

Mr. Khan estimated that about 200 villagers participated in the executions, including Khayyam’s father and brother, and Siddiqa’s brother, as well as other relatives, with a larger crowd of onlookers who did not take part.

“People were very happy seeing this,” Mr. Khan maintained, saying the crowd was festive and cheered during the stoning. The couple, he said, “did a bad thing.”

A spokesman for the Taliban, Zabiullah Mujahid, praised the action. “We have heard about this report,” he said, interviewed by cellphone. “But let me tell you that according to Shariah law, if someone commits a crime like that, we have our courts and we deal with such crimes based on Islamic law.”

Mr. Nadery, from the human rights commission, pointed to a string of recent such cases of summary justice by the Taliban. In northwestern Badghis Province on Aug. 8, a 41-year-old widow, who was made pregnant by a man she said promised to marry her, was convicted of fornication by a Taliban court. She was given 200 lashes with a whip and then shot to death, according to Col. Abdul Jabar, a provincial police official, who said the killing was ordered by the local Taliban commander, Mullah Yousef, in Qadis district.

President Hamid Karzai’s spokesman, Waheed Omer, said: ““President Karzai was deeply saddened and grieved when he heard that news. Nine years ago and we still see the Taliban doing events like that in Badghis.”

Time magazine focused widespread indignation on Afghanistan recently by putting on its cover a picture of an 18-year-old woman from Oruzgan Province whose nose and ears were cut off by her Taliban husband after she had fled her child marriage to him.

Amnesty International condemned the latest stonings, calling them the first such executions since the fall of the Taliban in 2001. “The Taliban and other insurgent groups are growing increasingly brutal in their abuses against Afghans,” said Sam Zarifi, an Amnesty International official.


Sharifullah Sahak contributed reporting.
Comment by David Burke on August 17, 2010 at 11:47am
Well,atleast I'm not alone here.yippee!!!
Comment by Charles Cusumano on August 8, 2010 at 5:07am
What would be the chances of ALL 56 of us getting together this fall in a central location to meet and discuss all things Atheistic?
Comment by Phil Greer on August 7, 2010 at 4:37pm
Another copy of a post of mine from a newspaper religious forum. Phil Greer


I have provided below a short list of a few crimes that the god of the bible should be held accountable for from the site listed below.

I hope some of you Christians will have the courage to test the strength of your faith and as one of your hero’s Josh McDowell might say “examine the evidence” of what the god of the bible should be held accountable for.
acrowley

Welcome to the EvilBible.com Web Site

This web site is designed to spread the vicious truth about the Bible. For far too long priests and preachers have completely ignored the vicious criminal acts that the Bible promotes.

The so called “God” of the Bible makes Osama Bin Laden look like a Boy Scout. This God, according to the Bible, is directly responsible for many mass-murders, rapes, pillage, plunder, slavery, child abuse and killing, not to mention the killing of unborn children.

I have included references to the Biblical passages, so grab your Bible and follow along. You can also follow along with on-line Bibles such as BibleStudyTools.net or SkepticsAnnotatedBible.com. It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said “Thou shall not kill”.


For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).

God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3).
He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” (Joshua 6).

In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife!

Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody!


In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!

In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered. The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9).


This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person. Murder, rape, pillage, plunder, slavery, and child abuse can not be justified by saying that some god says it’s OK. If more people would actually sit down and read the Bible there would be a lot more atheists like myself.


Jesus also promoted the idea that all men should castrate themselves to go to heaven: "For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother's womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it." (Matthew 19:12 ASV) I don't know why anyone would follow the teachings of someone who literally tells all men to cut off their privates.

The God of the Bible also was a big fan of ritual human sacrifice and animal sacrifice. And just in case you are thinking that the evil and immoral laws of the Old Testament are no longer in effect, perhaps you should read where Jesus makes it perfectly clear: "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB) There are many more quotes on this topic at my "Do Not Ignore the Old Testament" web page.

My comments are below (acrowley)

Many of you have been indoctrinated to such a degree as children that you are so deep into the god delusion that you are virtually beyond hope.

I speak from experience because I was once where you are. I was, until a few years ago unable to think in an open minded critical way about god or the bible. God was always right no matter what, why; because he was god, period end of sentence.


The bible was the word of god therefore holy and perfect in every way. I never, ever would have questioned god or the bible. God is god and I was not, enough said.

Posted above are VERY OBVIOUS acts of murder and genocide by the god of the bible.

Those of you that had the courage to even read them or god forbid check out the website (evil bible) that compiled them from the bible, I repeat FROM THE BIBLE, likely said;”those are god’s righteous judgments, God has the right to do what he does because he is God. It isn’t our place or right to judge a righteous and holy god.”


Ok then, try this, think, and imagine if you will that it was a human ruler that was having masses of people including innocent women and children killed. What if it were Hitler, or Stalin, or Osama Bin laden ordering these murders and rapes and other crimes that the god of the bible was ordering.

Would you think that was ok? Of course not! Murders, Genocides, rapes and other such atrocities are always horribly wrong.

So, why is it OK if it was god that committed these crimes?

Using this kind of logic was it not ok that the 9-11 terrorists crashed the planes into the twin towers? They believed with all their hearts that they were doing the will of god by killing all of what they considered to be from their religious view point; wicked unbelievers.

They believed so strongly or in other words their faith was so strong, that they were not only willing to kill for their god but die in the process.

Oh but it’s not the same you say, well open your bible to the passages that the website Evil Bible shows and read and put yourself in the place of the people being killed in the name of your Christian god or of the women that were raped or having their child or baby killed.

Would it have been Ok if your baby was ripped from your arms and run through with a sword if it was done by an Israelite warrior obeying what he believed to be orders from his god?

He believed with all of his heart that he was doing god’s will when he plunged his bloody sword into your innocent child.

God does not exist. We created god.

Acts of murder and other crimes committed in the name of god are and have always been horribly wrong.

The crimes against humanity that you read about in your bible done in the name of god are every bit as wrong as the crimes committed by the 9-11 terrorists.

The 9-11 terrorists just had bigger weapons and cable TV coverage.

Read your bible with a free and open mind. See what it really says.
Comment by Brian Sperger on August 1, 2010 at 10:58pm
I had no idea that MSU had a group. I'd love to go to one as an alumni. Also, if you guys are members, you should see if they'd like to start a Nexus group.
 

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