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Comment by Ralph Dumain on November 22, 2009 at 11:36pm
Again, I think the description for this group should be revised as I've suggested. Or maybe I should quit it. I do like the Humanistic Jews I've met. But just like with intermarriage, this group should explicitly open itself up to all sympathizers.
Comment by Eric on November 22, 2009 at 8:42pm
@Humanist Mark. The article was just posted online 2 days ago, Nov. 20, and the author might not necessarily know about HJ. Why not repeat your comments in the comment section of that article for the author's benefit and also that of any of the readers who don't know about HJ? Your comments below would be perfect copied-and-pasted into the comment section there.
Comment by Eric on November 21, 2009 at 11:38am
Thought you might be interested in seeing this article.

"What if People Actually Treated Religion as Just a Metaphor (Like Trekkies and Secular Jews)?"

http://www.alternet.org/belief/144070/what_if_people_actually_treat...
Comment by Ralph Dumain on November 17, 2009 at 9:50am
Once again, I think the group description should be changed: (1) minimally, to "atheists of Jewish origin, religiously or ethnically; (2) maximally, to "all atheists with a serious interest in Jewish matters, including but not limited to atheists of Jewish origin, religiously or ethnically". You see what I'm after here, both definitionally and in terms of inclusion. I do not like exclusionary groups.
Comment by Rose Schwartz on October 26, 2009 at 8:53am
I've experienced the opposite in my life re: ex-Christian atheists. I tend to find such atheists feel that Jews are generally more reasonable than Christians. Being that the Jewish doctrine says to seek knowledge and has no messiah. People have said its somewhat agnostic because of these things. The running joke I always hear is "Aren't all Jews atheists". I suppose that could be taken negatively if said by the wrong person, but I've never heard it said that way (except from the white supremacists and only online). I personally hear the most Jew-bashing the most is from good ol' American (current) Christians... But, sadly, I'm sure its quite popular in other countries as well.
Comment by Eric on October 26, 2009 at 2:39am
Talking about how Atheists attack Jewish character - I support creating that thread - I have a feeling I'm going to learn a lot from following that thread!
Comment by Eric on October 26, 2009 at 2:32am
I came back to this page, and saw two more comments by Ralph. First I thought I can't believe I missed those posts earlier, then I realized I was expecting the newer posts to appear on top above my previous posts, not below my earlier posts, so it's my mistake for misreading this page, not a software bug! :-)

I can't believe there's a Facebook group called Fuck Judaism. Why would FB allow such a group?? I am gonna have to check it out!

There was recently a guy who sought out anti-semitic groups and asked others on FB to flag these groups for FB, and he got himself kicked off FB. Some of these FB groups used Arabic writing, so I couldn't read the text and could only take his word for it that they were antisemitic. But I don't understand why FB didn't support his efforts. Sorry, I don't know his name or the name of his group, he's gone now and so is his page listing these groups.

I second Ralph's idea for amending the description of this group, adding the proviso he gives. Owner of this group -- Matthew F. -- what do you say? :-)
Comment by Eric on October 26, 2009 at 1:35am
Ok Ralph, I stand corrected!
Comment by Ralph Dumain on October 26, 2009 at 1:23am
In India, you betcha, among Hindu fascists. There's a history of admiration for Hitler, too. I suspect, though, that you can't blame only the Christian religion for anti-semitism among ex-Christians in the USA. Remember that the stereotypes about Jews pervade the society and are not transmitted primarily via religious upbringing anymore.
Comment by Eric on October 26, 2009 at 1:19am
Ralph, I have another question for you - does this atheistic anti-semitism you speak of only come from atheists who are ex-Christians? I wonder if anti-semitism is part and parcel of some flavors of Christianity, so maybe they haven't fully left the Christian part of themselves behind when they became atheists? I wonder if there's such a thing as anti-semitism in other cultures like in non-Christian places outside of the Middle East like in India.
 

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