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Seth Andrews' Rebuttal to "10 Women Christian Men Shouldn't Marry" (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat on Thursday. 13 Replies

It seems as though some numb-nuts New York pastor by the name of Stephen Kim has written two marriage advice pieces for christian men and women.  Not surprisingly, his suggestions come straight out of his never-fail magic book.  Seth Andrews of The…Continue

Tags: advice, marriage, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Stephen Kim

Living in the Answers

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Patricia Jan 18. 13 Replies

I am weary of those who declare they understand all the answers to the creation of the universe and Earth. They claim they know the answers to the questions of life, meaning, death, and the afterlife. Those with all the answer speak with confidence,…Continue

Tags: confidence, education, government, family, afterlife

Twin terrorists caught

Started by Patricia. Last reply by Patricia Jan 11. 7 Replies

Canada: twin terrorists caught before going to Mideast Saturday, January 10, 2015 By Martin Barillas L-R: Carlos and Ashton Larmond The Royal Canadian Mounted Police arrested and charged a pair of 24-year-old identical twin brothers on…Continue

Betty Bowers Best of 2014

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Jan 4. 33 Replies

Happy New Year, everyone!  Now that we're off on another 365-day stint of sniping at believers, leave it to America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, to sum up the year past from her holier-than-EVERYBODY point of view! Have You had YOUR Betty today?!?Continue

Tags: 2014, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Christmas: Behind the Curtain (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by booklover Dec 28, 2014. 23 Replies

Well, it's that time of year again.  Time to gird our loins, put on our battle armor and join the (dah-dah DAAAAAH!) WAR AGAINST CHRISTMAS!!! [groan!] Yeah, most of us have heard that crap before, probably too many times, in fact, how atheists are…Continue

Tags: Christmas, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Seth Andrews - The Copycats: How Christianity Steals The Best Ideas

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Dec 24, 2014. 11 Replies

Many of us have observed or learned how christianity shamelessly borrows from other sources to bolster its position and show off its supposed wonderfulness.  Well, Seth Andrews of The Thinking Atheist podcast has compiled some of the more modern-day…Continue

Tags: steal, borrow, copycat, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

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Comment by sk8eycat on April 21, 2013 at 8:00pm

@Tom Sarbeck: I think some of the early undergodding capitalists were the founders of what is now known as The Family Fellowship (aka The fellowship).  It started out as an anti-union organization. They are a secretive, almost underground organization that works under many other names, including Young Life (for high school and college students). I don't know if they have any direct connections with the dominionists at Oral Roberts University (where Michelle Bachmann went to law school), but it wouldn't surprise me if they do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fellowship_(Christian_organization)

They provide "prayer partners" and "prayer circles" for members of congress, and sponsor the "National Prayer Breakfast" (that would make me lose my apetite, if I had to attend)....and they are wealthy.  VERY. 

Hillary Clinton said her "prayer partners" helped her cope during the Monica Lewinsky scandal, and Bill Clinton's impeachment trial. That's one reason I will never vote for her.

I have Jeff Sharlett's book The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power  ...  I've read it several times, and it scares the *bleep!* out of me.  It also depresses me.  IMO it's a very powerful cabal.

Comment by Loren Miller on April 21, 2013 at 7:32pm

Not quite a month ago, I got myself a new ride, which I'm enjoying a lot.  The woman in the following video, though, seems to be getting a bit of a runaround with her attempt to purchase a used "Honda Prius."  Have a look at what would happen If God Were A Car:

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 21, 2013 at 6:47pm

"Live as if the crumbling order has already collapsed. Plant dreaming seeds of possibility, as you till the soil with the compost of this decaying paradigm. Cease your participation in it. Resist. Dream. Create. Organize. Live your life as a question addressed to the soul of the world and live your way into the answer."
~ Phil Rockstroh

Phil makes sense; With the Earth facing challenges of humans' making, I can think of nothing instead of this or better than this.
Plant, till, cease participation, resist, dream, create, organize, live in the question into the answer!

~ Phil Rockstroh

Image: Parade, by Mordecai Moreh

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 21, 2013 at 5:46pm

Of course people became disillusioned with capitalism, it failed and very badly with both the boom and bust and we continue to have booms and busts, but they are getting closer together and more serious. Eventually, the world will lose faith in capitalism. The way it is designed creates great wealth, the distribution changes over time, with protection for workers coming and going depending on where we are on the boom/bust scale in which we are on. 

Spokane was a Wobbly town ... so was Seattle, Tacoma and Everett. Any of you old enough to remember? "Workers of the World Unite." It gained power by strikes, boycotts, organizing, picketing, and it was sometimes deadly, on both sides. Pinkertons killed strikers, strikers bombed railroads and mines and businesses. Not a very pretty sight.

Everett, WA massacre:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everett_massacre

 

Centralia, WA Massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia_Massacre_(Washington)

 

Spokane, WA in 1909, Wobblies organized and won a free-speech fight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spokane,_Washington

When you wrote, "The longer story (to be documented soon in a book by a history prof)", I am very interested in any new information. If you find an author, title, or any write up, please let me know. 

I am sorry, I said I wouldn't write more politial news on this link, but I seem to not be able to resist the temptation. 

By the way, if anyone is watching, I am not, have never been, and will never be a communist. I have been to too many communist countries to know that is not a system that supports a curious mind. 

Comment by tom sarbeck on April 21, 2013 at 5:19pm

Re the mention of the 1940s musical Oklahoma:

1. Some wonderful music and singing. In a young folks performance (~1946) my older sister was cast to sing Shirley MacClain's number I'm Just a Girl Who Can't Say No. She and my authoritarian Catholic dad fought a verbal battle the neighbors probably heard but she sang it. The performance was so well liked that they were invited to play it many times in Cincinnati neighborhoods. (That sister was the first in the family to quit Catholicism. She married in a Protestant chuch and my dad refused to go. Before he died he knew all of his five kids had quit. It was kind of like our revenge.)

2. I watched O two years ago and liked all but the barroom morality play number where woman dancers warn young men against sexual sin. It's so American Victorian Xian, etc.

Comment by booklover on April 21, 2013 at 5:11pm

Comment by booklover on April 21, 2013 at 5:10pm

Hi Everyone!  Just got back from a wonderful weekend at my daughters school with my mom and son.  We all (including her roommate) went shopping, out to dinner, and then to a show.  My Son stayed with my Daughter and her roommate at their apartment (it was siblings weekend), and my Mom and I stayed at a nearby hotel.  Very nice.  My daughter is feeling depressed, and I am hoping she can just hang-on the last 2 1/2 weeks of the semester, then come home and have the summer to get her meds right with the doctor, talk to her therapist, and then go back and finish her Senior year.  She had been thinking of not finishing, which I feel she will regret later in life.  I didn't finish, and I have always regretted it.  I don't feel like finishing now, but I wish I had done it when I was young.  She has her expenses paid for her now, and that is the easiest time to finish!  I really hope the doctor can help her.

Anyway, too much here to respond to everything... Joan, thanks for the lovely picture of Mother and Daughter, and for thinking of us.  Steph, you are as sweet as the pictures of cupcakes and kittens that you post.  You are a great friend.  Hugs to you too Ruth, and I love all of you!  Sorry to sound mushy, but I am mushy! lol :)~ Melinda

Comment by tom sarbeck on April 21, 2013 at 4:39pm

How did UG get added to the Pledge (which my pals, all of them veterans, know I don't and won't recite)?

The short, partly true story is that in 1954 some submissives (Nietzsche slave morality types) wanted to advertise their slave morality so no one would think they are commie atheists.

The longer story (to be documented soon in a book by a history prof) is that early in the 1930s Depression some business types feared that Americans would lose their faith in capitalism. They hired conservative preachers to plant connections in their followers' minds between capitalism and xianity. The campaign continued through the Depression, WW2 and into the early years of the Cold War. In 1954 Congress added UG to the Pledge.

I have the details on the book title and its author in a SF Chronicle story but to post it I'll have to find it in the stacks of paper on my desk.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 21, 2013 at 4:24pm

Do any of the people who say "god bless america" know the background story of conflict, oppression, domination, and exploitation of our nation? Do you have any idea why there is such hatred going both ways? Who are the hate-monger citizens of this country? Who are the hate-monger citizens of other countries? To claim america is #1 does not know our history or our reality. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 21, 2013 at 4:21pm

Patricia, thanks for the poster. For those who look into such things, 

Greg Graffin is correct, you know!

 

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