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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

Nobody here is into mind games. A discussion started with a loaded guilt-throwing question will be deleted.

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Ode to Yahweh (Non Stamp Collector & 43alley)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Tuesday. 1 Reply

Ages ago (five or six years, I guess it is) when I first started recognizing my own atheism, one of the first atheist YouTubers I ran onto was Non Stamp Collector.  His handiwork wasn't up to Disney's standards, nor even Hanna-Barbera, but his wit…Continue

Tags: Yahweh, YouTube, 43alley, Non Stamp Collector

Oregon Field Guide - Lamprey Decline

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Mar 15. 3 Replies

Oregon Field Guide - Lamprey Decline"Populations of Eel-like lamprey have suddenly plummeted since the year 2000 in the Columbia Basin, surprising…Continue

Richard Dawkins, Growing Up in the Universe

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 14. 2 Replies

Here is an oldie, the young Richard Dawkins teaching kids about the universe. I especially like the one demonstrating how the eye evolved. This should answer those who believe it was impossible to evolve an eye. Continue

Tags: universe, teaching, Dawkins, Richard

Seeing Things (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Feb 25. 2 Replies

TheraminTrees doesn't release videos very often these days,  but when he does, they are positive GEMS.  Most recent of his works is the following, wherein he dismantles some of the common rebuttals atheist get from believers when we assert our…Continue

Tags: seeing things, YouTube, TheraminTrees

Let's not define ourselves or others by our worst behaviors

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Feb 15. 4 Replies

My take on the recent melt down at Hang With Friends, of which I missed part, is that some of us were tripped up by a habit of thought. It's something we learn growing up, and use without realizing how much pain it can generate -  failing to…Continue

Tags: dispute at Hang With Friends

You'll NEVER Guess Who Just Showed Up on Mr. Deity!!!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Feb 14. 11 Replies

I don't believe this one either, but ... well, here it is: And would you believe - Mr. D made me laugh!  RD, that is!Continue

Tags: Richard Dawkins, Mr. Deity

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Comment by sk8eycat on March 22, 2013 at 1:03pm

Oh, I love Dog and Friend.  The raccoon looks like a youngster...about half-grown. 

I used to have some friends who had a pet raccoon...named TrashCan; every time we would get together they would have another hilarious tale about his behavior.  (They built an enormous enclosure for him...took up half the back yard...but they also would bring him in the house on a leash.  Until the night he ate one of their parrots.  LOL)

Comment by Idaho Spud on March 22, 2013 at 1:03pm

WTF indeed.

Comment by sk8eycat on March 22, 2013 at 12:57pm

Spud, another word that has made my teeth itch ever since it was coined is "wellness."  The first time I saw it, I wondered "WTF is wrong with 'health'? Or 'healthy'?"  It's a simple word that everybody should be able to understand, so why invent a non-word that smells of Madison Ave. semi-cuteness?  It is now acceptable even in university publications, and it makes me want to scream.

Comment by Idaho Spud on March 22, 2013 at 9:40am

Haha!  Sorry Rover, no way!

Comment by Idaho Spud on March 22, 2013 at 9:13am

I'm another one that doesn't understand the meaning of the word meme, even though I've read Dawkins, Wikipedia, and several people on the net explain it.  

I've just about given-up on trying to understand it.  As far as I can tell, it's not necessary for me to understand it, and I have much more enjoyable things to think about and do.

Maybe it's just part of my curmudgeonliness, but there are a number of new words that I don't see any reason to use or understand.  Most of them seem to have old words that describe what the new word does, sometimes even better.

Comment by sk8eycat on March 22, 2013 at 4:19am

LOL!  I've had a problem for decades; I have had my nose in one book or another since I learned to read, and friends always say, "Why don't you write a book?"  Sheesh! I can outline a simple plot idea, but that's about as far as I can go.  I can't imagine characters in detail, and my dialog tends to run to one-liners and puns.  And that's IT.

My favorite authors (living and dead) make the reader see, hear, and feel their characters without actually describing them in any detail. I can't do that.  I think it's an inborn talent, and whatever talent I have ever had is/was physical. I can choreograph in my head, but I can't explain it to anybody else.  I just listen to music and know what moves belong when.  And the shape my body has been in for the past 25 years, I can't do the moves anymore.

So I read and enjoy it.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 22, 2013 at 2:31am

Oh, I think I see my problem, I enjoy seeing memes, I am just not clever at creating them. Oh well, so what else is new; I'm not good at a lot of things and I am very good at a lot of things. Creating memes is not one of my strengths. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 22, 2013 at 2:24am

sk8eycat, I like what you wrote and your experience. I know the fog will lift at some point and I will say "why did I make such a deal out of this; it is only ....!" 

I looked up Judith Hayes and read only a little bit and like what I read. Sorry to learn of her suicide and its impact on you. I look forward to looking into more of what she had to say. 

Comment by sk8eycat on March 22, 2013 at 1:43am

Joan, I'm not stupid, either, but I'm not exactly highly educated, and I have never *grokked* the meme concept, either. I have read The God Delusion three times, and reread certain sections more times than that, and I still don't understand a lot of what Dawkins is trying to say.

I have had a long-standing problem with a lot of writers in the field...they use another language that I call Academish, and I don't understand it.

That's why I was so delighted when I first found Judith Hayes (The Happy Heretic) online about 12 years ago.  She "spoke" my language, and clearly explained many of the contradictions and nonsense in religions, particularly xianity.  We actually became friends...email and phone...and I was invited to come visit, but I never had the oppportunity.

And that's why I was so hurt and angry when she killled herself last year.  I miss her dreadfully.  I don't know if her columns are still archived online, I haven't looked, but she always made sense...she didn't use vague terms like "meme," ...until she kinda went off the rails when her husband died.  You might find her books (she wrote 2) at half.com.  You can search by author.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 22, 2013 at 1:00am

Let me see if I can get a little clearer on what I am trying to learn about meme. I read Dawkins' book and what Dennett had to say. I read the Wiki articles and still I don't get a feel for a meme. I know I am not stupid, even as I feel stupid in this case. Perhaps it is my lack of a sense of humor, in that case I will just enjoy what others create.

There is another aspect of this, too. It is I agree wholeheartedly with what Ruth describes as poo, or a virus that atheists spread, unintentionally. When I write or read something critical, I wonder if it is a virus.

Things I write about religion are my true thoughts based on my experiences. I am biased and I know that, but there are so many outrageous stories religious tell each other, i.e. that woman who describes how god kept her oil bottle full, Oh! I get shutters. 

Well, I don't want to dwell on this too long, and what I am really trying to discover is how to use a meme to expose stupidity while not spreading poo all over the place. 

Please feel free to alert me when I do such a thing. Kind of like what Dogly did for me today!. It hurt when I read it, but he told me the truth and I love him for that. 

 

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