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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Surreal, I haz it

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner 2 hours ago. 82 Replies

Surreal, not just found in art.Continue

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Let's not define ourselves or others by our worst behaviors

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Dominique Lutz Apr 16. 6 Replies

My take on the recent melt down at Hang With Friends, of which I missed part, is that some of us were tripped up by a habit of thought. It's something we learn growing up, and use without realizing how much pain it can generate -  failing to…Continue

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The FLDS Cult Is Unraveling

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Mar 29. 3 Replies

The FLDS Cult Is Unraveling"the internet is a lifeline for people trapped in the most restrictive and stifling forms of…Continue

Tags: Warren Jeff, internet, FLDS

Ode to Yahweh (Non Stamp Collector & 43alley)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 24. 1 Reply

Ages ago (five or six years, I guess it is) when I first started recognizing my own atheism, one of the first atheist YouTubers I ran onto was Non Stamp Collector.  His handiwork wasn't up to Disney's standards, nor even Hanna-Barbera, but his wit…Continue

Tags: Yahweh, YouTube, 43alley, Non Stamp Collector

Oregon Field Guide - Lamprey Decline

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Mar 15. 3 Replies

Oregon Field Guide - Lamprey Decline"Populations of Eel-like lamprey have suddenly plummeted since the year 2000 in the Columbia Basin, surprising…Continue

Richard Dawkins, Growing Up in the Universe

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 14. 2 Replies

Here is an oldie, the young Richard Dawkins teaching kids about the universe. I especially like the one demonstrating how the eye evolved. This should answer those who believe it was impossible to evolve an eye. Continue

Tags: universe, teaching, Dawkins, Richard

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Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 29, 2013 at 10:46pm

Awe shucks, Joan.  You make me blush with your compliments. I can't imagine, though, what "so many insights" I've offered you from my sporadic postings.  But, thank you.  I value your posts and participation here as well......very much so.  :) 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 10:41pm

Magical ice caves in Skaftafeli - Iceland!

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 10:39pm

Beach at Jökulsárlón glacial lagoon in Iceland , during sunrise  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=480504815300765&set=a.4....

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 10:31pm

Brandi, I agree that control plays a huge part in all this. I can remember thinking, "How am I supposed to do this ...?" And when the shift occurred, it was more like, "Here is the problem as I understand it; what are my options? What has the highest probability of getting what I need or want? Taking action and paying attention to the consequences. With this way of thinking, I feel strong, competent, have self-respect, and don't have to look to others for affirmation. 

Carl has provided me with so many insights over the months and is a real treasure of a friend. Thanks Carl. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 10:22pm
Carl, how different your family was than mine. One cousin's daughter is a lesbian; she and her partner had three children with a male friend. Those kids are almost grown now and the greatest family I can ever remember. For so many years it was a secret until they decided to have a family. My family was in such a tither, we can only laugh about it now. Another cousin has a gay son and one day he told his parents. My cousin and his wife laughed and told him they had known it for years. My divorce and their homosexuality were extreme violations of the family's value systems ... and they all survived our "sins".
It seems to me the most important thing about families is to provide an environment whereby each one can be his/her own being, living his/her lifestyle that fits his/her values.
Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 9:52pm

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 9:46pm

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 9:44pm

 “There’s simply no polite way to tell people they’ve dedicated their lives to an illusion,”

~ Daniel Dennett 

Philosophy That Stirs the Waters

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 29, 2013 at 9:40pm

Joan, in response to your earlier post about me you mused, "I assume you, too, had to search for principles upon which you could build your life."  I never really searched for principles (or a philosophy per say) to live my life.  Rather, I'd say that my parents instilled a level of morality and ethics into me and my three siblings that I grew to learn had a degree of integrity that I could be proud of and happy to use as a guide.  At the same time I lived as closely as I could to being the true me, albeit with one major exception.....I was closeted to others about my already self-known homosexuality, not that I thought there was anything wrong with me, but out of embarrassment and fear of negative reactions.  But during my entire childhood I did manage to march to the beat of my own unique drum, and my family and I can still laugh about some of my eccentric and memorable episodes to this day.  

I started questioning religion during my high school years and definitely had an atheistic view cemented during my college years.  All these years since, I've led my life according to principles given to me by my parents and but also by my own moral standard taught to me through experience.  I'll be 49 this year but it was fairly recently, about five or six years ago, when I was reading about something I had never heard of, Secular Humanism, when the light bulb went off in my head and I experienced a revelation.  I was everything a Secular Humanist was!!  I didn't go searching for a philosophy, I kind of stumbled upon a label that described who I already was.

I would venture to say that if all you took away just one aspect from my parents, their religion, you'd be left with two people who are Secular Humanists.    

Comment by sk8eycat on April 29, 2013 at 7:55pm

I forgot to mention one of the main things that exploded in my brain when I was reading the buybull, and really thinking about what I was reading.  I have always been fascinated by all the sciences, but didn't have the math background or ability to get into college and major in one of them (and I was madly in love with skating until it started to hurt).  I have always wanted to know the TRUTH about everything.  I was still reading Genesis when I realized everything in it was written by flat-earthers, and stuff like Noah's Flood were physically impossible. At that point I began deliberately looking for other impossibilities.  At that time I wasn't aware of all the scholarly books and articles going back to the Enlightenment about the fact that the basis of Judaism and Islam, Abraham, was probably a myth, that archaeological evidence for the Exodus does not exist, and there is nothing written by either Jewish or Roman historians mentioning the crucificxion of a rabble-rousing rabbi during Passover.

(Nor was I aware then that the Sanhedrin would never have tried anybody for any religious "crime" during Passover. And they certainly would not have taken the matter to the Roman governor, and insisted that he order the execution of the "criminal.")

BUT by the time I got halfway through Revelation I was wondering what drugs the writer was on.  That was in the mid 1960s, and pot and LSD were beginning to make the rounds....  Ergot, or ergotamine was known, and used, for millennia in Rome and Egypt.

Anyway, I realized I had been reading and trying to believe fiction. And it wasn't nearly as much fun as Dick Francis' horse-racing mysteries...or even Perry Mason.  So I said, "Phphphbtbtbtttt!" And quit trying to force a triangular (the Trinity) block into a circular-reasoned orifice.

It took Heinlein's STRANGER IN A STRANGE LAND to make me "get" that communion is symbolic cannibaliam. Gag me with a spoon, Mary!

 

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