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Seth Andrews - The Copycats: How Christianity Steals The Best Ideas

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Soren Sagan on Wednesday. 9 Replies

Many of us have observed or learned how christianity shamelessly borrows from other sources to bolster its position and show off its supposed wonderfulness.  Well, Seth Andrews of The Thinking Atheist podcast has compiled some of the more modern-day…Continue

Tags: steal, borrow, copycat, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Finding Your Roots

Started by Randall Smith. Last reply by Chris G on Tuesday. 9 Replies

I've been into genealogy for a long time. It's fun, especially with internet help, but increasingly frustrating. You see, I've hit "brick walls". And being a Smith doesn't make research any easier.Wouldn't you think I could find the death date and…Continue

Christmas: Behind the Curtain (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by sk8eycat Dec 12. 11 Replies

Well, it's that time of year again.  Time to gird our loins, put on our battle armor and join the (dah-dah DAAAAAH!) WAR AGAINST CHRISTMAS!!! [groan!] Yeah, most of us have heard that crap before, probably too many times, in fact, how atheists are…Continue

Tags: Christmas, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by sk8eycat Nov 26. 41 Replies

This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

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Aljam

Started by Randall Smith. Last reply by Grinning Cat Nov 24. 4 Replies

I'm not a news hound by any stretch, but I do like to stay informed about what's going on in the world. (I despise "local" news with all the reports of murders, robberies, fires, etc.)The national "evening" news shows really irritate me. I hate…Continue

Surreal, I haz it

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Nov 22. 79 Replies

Surreal, not just found in art.Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo on May 25, 2013 at 2:53am

Tom, I'm reading. I want to know what they pay in taxes. Do you have figures?

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on May 25, 2013 at 2:04am

If you want to see some Democratic dogma, continue reading.

Where do corporations get the money to pay taxes on income?

Do they reduce the interest they pay to stock owners?

Do they raise the prices their customers pay?

Both of the above?

Somewhere else?

Do you want taxpayers to know what they pay in taxes?

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 25, 2013 at 1:21am

Patricia, I can't wait to see your remodel. What an exciting thing to have happening. We will celebrate with you in a virtual house warming. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 25, 2013 at 1:17am

This is the kind of Jaunting Cart I rode for two days in Killarney, Ireland, with an old Irish gentleman. I visited schools, hospitals, day care centers, old folks homes, and interviewed some of his relatives who were peasant people. Even though we did some sightseeing, I was not interested in the English estates or castles. I wanted to see workers' cottages, farms, and we ate in non-tourist Irish pubs. It was quite an experience. He was an Irish loyalist, through and through and so a perfect guide for my interests. He told me of the Irish famine and how his ancestors survived. A horrid story of greed, tyranny, and exploitation of the Irish. The famine was a political famine. There was plenty of food available, and the British owned the soil. Any poaching resulted in hanging. 

Killarney Jaunting Cart like I rode for two days doing my research. 

The Irish famine: Opening old wounds
http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2012/12/irish-famine

The Graves Are Walking
http://us.macmillan.com/thegravesarewalking/JohnKelly

The Famine Plot
http://www.palgrave.com/products/title.aspx?pid=485515

Killarney Jaunting Carts and scenes from Google

Comment by Ian Mason on May 25, 2013 at 12:53am

Very good words, Joan. There are too many petty dictators in the world and so many people that need a helping hand to escape from them.

Patricia, I hope your house is soon fully dressed in its new wardrobe. What colour are houses wearing this Spring?

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 25, 2013 at 12:06am

Grace Lee Boggs. This is a woman for our time. She has a message that must be echoed down the streets and highways of our nation. 

Grace Lee Boggs in Los Angeles

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on May 24, 2013 at 11:55pm

Joan, that graph's a stunning display of how corporations have evaded responsibility in the US. And every Republican bill that pretends to lower taxes is another way to limit their contribution even further. As the article says

"Another thing we can get mad about is how the "corporate tax reform" that Cook and other corporate leaders are always banging on about will actually serve to make it so companies pay even less in taxes than they do now."

What? There's no quote button in comments now? *ack*

I loved the ducks learning to love water video. Thanks!

Take good care of yourself. *HUG*

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 24, 2013 at 10:42pm

If you don't know how to read a chart, find someone to teach you. If you don't have time, make time. 

If you have more important things to do, you are a fool. 

The 1 Chart That Reveals Just How Grossly Unfair The U.S. Tax Syste...

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 24, 2013 at 10:13pm

Former Whitworth college president, Edward Lindaman,  formerly director of programming for the Apollo space project, helped me organize "Toward a theory of family violence: its antecedents, treatment and prevention". He taught that when confronted with a problem for which old thinking and procedures fail to accomplish tasks, start thinking in the future tense.  He used an example of building a system that would get a man on the moon and return him safely to earth. They did not have the fuels, plastics, metals, navigation equipment or even the nuts and bolts and a lot of other things needed to accomplish their mission. They started with what they had, imagined and created what they needed for the future and then built the rockets and manned space capsules. They thought in the future tense.  

Gathering information for my masters' degree, I was totally overwhelmed by the amount of data I collected in support of my theses, in spite of the fact there were no books on the subject in city or county libraries or in any of the local colleges and universities. I did find journal articles buried in the stacks of Psych and Soc abstracts.  My interviews with physicians, psychiatrists, ministers, counselors, therapists, teachers, emergency room doctors and nurses and personnel, and police resulted in 18,000 3x5 cards of date.   

Overwhelmed by the amount of information gathered from primary sources and literature reviews, I asked Ed Lindaman for help and in 90 minutes we developed a framework, an outline, a non-biased way to present findings so that I could be free of the accusation of bias. My thesis completed and put into the college thesis library system, I received both praise and condemnation. 

Working on my doctoral dissertation at a Roman Catholic University, I wrote "A Splendid Heresy", about abuse, faith,  prayer, marriage and divorce, child rearing, contraception, abortion. With each written topic I received valuable and appreciated criticisms from priests and professors because they forced me to dig deeper and wider into my thinking of such things as family, religion, cultural norms, power/powerlessness, agency/helplessness, independent/dependent behaviors, consequences of attitudes, beliefs, customs, traditions, and values.

In the end I failed to earn a Ph.D. because I was "biased." 

Think carefully about the role of education: is it to indoctrinate or explore?

 

Guide to the Edward B. Lindaman Papers 
1965-1982

http://nwda-db.wsulibs.wsu.edu/ark:/80444/xv40359

 

Thinking in the Future Tense, Edward B. Lindaman.

http://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Future-Tense-Edward-Lindaman/dp/0805...

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 24, 2013 at 10:05pm

Tom, you are a delight!  For years I have been making noises trying to get people to hear what legions of people have been trying to say and for whatever reason, are not heard, or do not speak clearly enough, or speak to deaf ears. Just think of the tears and suffering of African black slaves who were not heard, even though they gave voice to their sorrow. 
It is well past time for people to stand together, speak up in a single voice and make claims to rights of humanity and access to justice. We have to have the courage, wisdom, and insight, and if we stand up, speak out, refuse to submit, our whole world will be better off. 

Hunger, disease, ignorance, poverty, powerlessness are crimes against humanity, and we must hold humanity responsible. Our nation is so far off track, even our bridges fall down into rivers as we bomb and blast people too poor to crawl out of caves to protect themselves. Where are our priorities. We should be working to make all people thrive. The people from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Indian, China, USA, Mexico ... everyone one has the right to thrive and become fully functional to their capacities. Just think, if the working people of all those countries could afford to buy goods and services and uplift their nations, how much better Earth will be. 

 

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