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Descartes' OTHER Job

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Luara 3 hours ago. 4 Replies

Trying to keep your head above water financially as a philosopher must have been hard for Rene Descartes.  Got to make ends meet SOMEHOW, so...!Continue

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The Party of Lincoln Goes South (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner 15 hours ago. 1 Reply

And so they have, in a big way, since Lincoln did his thing 150 years ago.  This business hasn't escaped the attention of American's Best Christian, either, and Ms. Bowers has no problem in holding forth with observations of her own about this…Continue

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Surreal, I haz it

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by booklover Apr 14. 75 Replies

Surreal, not just found in art.Continue

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Poem - "Oh, Wait..."

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Luara Apr 11. 7 Replies

Before you ask, no, I didn't write this.  I discovered it in a comment on a Discovermagazine.com piece which…Continue

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Curious: Has anyone read the novel "Christian Nation"?

Started by Brent Feeney. Last reply by Plinius Apr 10. 11 Replies

So I've been thinking about this some lately, and I wanted to see what your thoughts were:I read a novel last fall that was making the rounds of Atheist blogs and what not called "Christian Nation", which is part alternative history and part…Continue

Stop the Religious Right. Four Steps You Can Take, Sean Faircloth.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 9. 2 Replies

Thanks to Grinning Cat via Loren Miller led me to this additional video by Sean Faircloth. He provides positive and powerful examples of thinking and acting. Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo on January 14, 2013 at 5:47pm
sk8eycat, you have no reason to be ashamed, you did what was best for you, and probably those pregnancies. There is nothing sacred about having a baby. I tried for seven years and couldn't carry a baby to term, even though I had five pregnancies in that time. Through a physician friend we found a young girl who was about three months pregnant and wanted to give her baby up for adoption. So we waited for her to deliver in September, 1963. However, in July of 1963 I discovered I was pregnant with twins. I asked my doctor if there were any medical contraindications to go ahead with the adoption and he said, "No Medical reason!" So, we brought him home when he was five days old and when he was five months and 13-days old our twins were born. I love parenting; I made some terrible mistakes, but I am so proud of all three and what they have made of their lives.
Comment by booklover on January 14, 2013 at 5:01pm

Comment by booklover on January 14, 2013 at 5:00pm

Joan, your Voice Of Reason video was just beautiful!  I wish I could have everyone I know watch it.

Napoleon, Don't I know it!  I am on meds for anxiety and panic attacks. I have been for 20 years, and I should have been even before that. Fortunately we've come a long way with acceptance of these things!

Felaine, you did what was best for you, and you knew what you could handle and what you could not.  That makes you very self-aware and smart!  I wanted kids, had 2 miscarriages before 6 weeks, and gave birth to 2 full-term.  When people said they were sorry I lost my 'baby', I thought, "what?".  It wasn't a baby yet.  I was only a couple of weeks.  I never for a minute mourned losing a 'baby.'  It was probably not even an embryo yet.  And the 2 I did have, and still have, I can't even begin to say how overwhelming it is to be a parent.  They are the best things that ever happened to me, but I will NEVER know a true moments peace for the rest of my life.  I love them so overwhelmingly I will worry until my last breath.  It is NOT for everyone.  You should never feel ashamed.

Comment by Napoleon Bonaparte on January 14, 2013 at 4:51pm

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 14, 2013 at 3:50pm

Joan, Lawrence Krauss' view is amazing indeed!  So much more so than the simplistic and childish religious stories.

I learned 4 new words in your unsettled weather report :)

Couldn't get "Look'n at daddy" video to play.

Felaine, I'm also self-centered and responsibility is not something I like either.  I also agree there are too many unwanted, abused, lonely children in the world. 

Although, if I had children they would not be abused or lonely, and probably not unwanted, despite my dislike of responsibility.  I've taken responsibility seriously when I've had to.

Comment by sk8eycat on January 14, 2013 at 3:10pm

Joan, the only fact I knew for sure from the time I was about 13 (after doing a lot of baby-sitting to pay for skating lessons) was that I never, ever wanted to have children.  I'm too self-centered to be a decent parent; sometimes even the daily cat care gets on my left nerve.

Mother kept telling me that I'd change my attitude once I had a baby (she was terribly anxious to be a grandmother), but I didn't think it would be fair, or safe, for the child to take such a risk.

I got pregnant 3 times (before the Pill), and got violently ill before I even missed a period every single time.  So I had 3 abortions before the 6th week...all illegal, of course.  A lot of people helped me find real MDs who were willing to do D&Cs on the sly.

I still sometimes think I should be ashamed, but I don't.  I think it's a worse "sin" to bring an unwanted child into the world than it is to abort one...or 3.  There are too many unwanted, abused, lonely children as it is.

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 14, 2013 at 2:29pm

sk8eycat, We learned so many things that are not true. I guess that is what growing up means ... question authority, think for yourself, enjoy today for this is all there is, and appreciate natural things. 

By the way, in the movie, "Look'n at daddy"  there is scene that looked like our house at feeding time 48 years ago. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 14, 2013 at 2:24pm
Comment by sk8eycat on January 14, 2013 at 2:19pm

Joan, thank you.  Stuff like that just takes my breath away.

I wish I'd known some of this when I was a teen, struggling to make myself believe what I was told in church.  I just couldn't believe that my contemporaries actually had two-way conversations with a god, and I thought the fault was mine.

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 14, 2013 at 1:39pm
Voice of Reason Lawrence Krauss Reality is liberating
http://youtu.be/XECgqGw8abk
 

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