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Comment by Joan Denoo on January 7, 2013 at 3:31pm

Idaho Spud, you and Chris are correct about education that teaches obedience instead of critical thinking. It is harder work for a teacher to teach a large group, but there are also advantages. Conflict and problems come up and become the teachable moment. With the requirements to teach to the test, a good teacher has to forego such effort to get through the required stuff. 

When I taught at the boys' ranch, the prison, or the women's programs I was doing remedial work because my students, mostly, had done poorly in school and didn't learn the essential skills of problem solving and conflict resolution and how to think critically.

There are tons of books on these skills and I treated them like tools in a toolbox. My students had to show proficiency in listening, asserting, problem identification, goal setting, etc. in order to qualify for my certificate. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 7, 2013 at 3:23pm

booklover, great way to describe love. Your daughter being with you for the winter break sounded fun and invigorating for you. You have a "spring" in your writing when you talk about her and your family. 

Your "This walk is over" made me laugh. Looks like he/she is at the stage in life that I am. We have 6 " of new snow and temp is now 36 degrees. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 7, 2013 at 2:44pm

Chris Breman, I agree: "training to make them (students) into docile, hardworking subjects who won't criticize or think - churches and other authoritarian institutes always want slaves."

Obedience to authority works for them. It doesn't work for individuals who believe obedience is a high value. 

What we need are critical thinkers, ones who can define a problem without blaming or accusing, who can imagine a preferred future, who knows how identify resources available and those that are needed but not available, who can muster cooperation with others to read a noble goal, who can plan, execute and evaluate outcomes. Then, we will have individuals able to take care of themselves and who live life doing what they like doing. 

This is worth making a loud noise about, even if people don't want us to jangle our cages. 

Comment by Plinius on January 7, 2013 at 11:29am

Idaho, if they want your children to learn without asking questions and without discussion; if they don't want the children to find things out for  themselves; if they say "You don't need to know that."; if they make cuts and changes in the curriculum; if they adapt the lessons to fit their beliefs, then you can be sure they want more slaves.

I had a school-time like that, long ago in the sixties, but I still know schools with a program like that.

Comment by John Lynch on January 7, 2013 at 10:32am
Comment by Chris Dodds on January 7, 2013 at 10:23am

Can anyone help me?  I'm trying to make a Youtube series focusing on the Christ Myth Theory and I was wondering what the name of a certain type of angel is.  The angel I'm talking about is supposed to appear in the end times, it's supposed to have four wings and four heads; thse of a man, an ox, a lion, and an eagle.

Comment by John Lynch on January 7, 2013 at 9:36am

Hate seems to indicate hurting someone. I think that is the end result when you hate. Love can hurt if you are rejected by the people you love. I think it is easier to get over rejection that a continued hate of people. I resent some people for sure but I can avoid them rather than hating. On the other hand I would have a hard time not hating someone who hurt my children. Maybe there is a balance of some kind to keep us sane. Interesting topic.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 7, 2013 at 8:13am

I can relate to the pudgy pooch who's walk is over.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 7, 2013 at 8:06am

Chris, I very much like what you say about helping older people study without pain.  My mother suffered at the hands of a teacher that caused her a great deal of pain, and made her hate school.

I also very much like what you say about training to make people into docile slaves.  I've seen that in the company I worked for, In the church I was raised in, in government "leaders", but didn't notice it in education.  Now that you mention it, I think you're right.

Comment by booklover on January 7, 2013 at 7:44am

 

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