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Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Seth Andrews - The Copycats: How Christianity Steals The Best Ideas

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Soren Sagan 13 hours ago. 9 Replies

Many of us have observed or learned how christianity shamelessly borrows from other sources to bolster its position and show off its supposed wonderfulness.  Well, Seth Andrews of The Thinking Atheist podcast has compiled some of the more modern-day…Continue

Tags: steal, borrow, copycat, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Finding Your Roots

Started by Randall Smith. Last reply by Chris G on Tuesday. 9 Replies

I've been into genealogy for a long time. It's fun, especially with internet help, but increasingly frustrating. You see, I've hit "brick walls". And being a Smith doesn't make research any easier.Wouldn't you think I could find the death date and…Continue

Christmas: Behind the Curtain (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by sk8eycat on Friday. 11 Replies

Well, it's that time of year again.  Time to gird our loins, put on our battle armor and join the (dah-dah DAAAAAH!) WAR AGAINST CHRISTMAS!!! [groan!] Yeah, most of us have heard that crap before, probably too many times, in fact, how atheists are…Continue

Tags: Christmas, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by sk8eycat Nov 26. 41 Replies

This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

Tags: singing, lyrics, reclaimed, reclaiming, HumanLight

Aljam

Started by Randall Smith. Last reply by Grinning Cat Nov 24. 4 Replies

I'm not a news hound by any stretch, but I do like to stay informed about what's going on in the world. (I despise "local" news with all the reports of murders, robberies, fires, etc.)The national "evening" news shows really irritate me. I hate…Continue

Surreal, I haz it

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Nov 22. 79 Replies

Surreal, not just found in art.Continue

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Comment by booklover on July 21, 2013 at 1:18pm

I agree Carl.  People, especially in the US, are so used to their conspicuous consumption, that I think they would rebel.  They can't even imagine not having everything they want, when they want it, even if it means (and it usually does) putting it on credit cards.  They can't fathom that it is literally impossible for the whole world to live this way. It makes me sick. Selfish is right! And yes, we are in a very sad state!  I am pretty frugal, and I'm working on living a minimalist lifestyle.  Believe me, I'm not there yet, but just watching others consume out-of-control makes me ill.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on July 21, 2013 at 12:49pm

I'm am quite aware of the many sacrifices that were made by civilians during the period of WWII.  Government enforced rationing of meat, gas, rubber (auto tires), sugar, butter, coffee, metal, etc, etc.  The long list goes on and on.  I often times wonder if our society today could even begin to accept such inconveniences without total anarchy breaking out.  The modern, western-style of over-consumption has not only become our normal standard of living but also an expected human right, any negative consequences be damned.  

Since the time of WWII we have participated in several more wars but we have not rationed since the 1940's.  We had long lines for gasoline for a short period in the 1970's, but alas, that was only temporary.  Once the oil was flowing again, our over-consumption kicked right back in.  I'm deeply troubled by this behavior and I'm at a loss for a solution.  As I stated above, I honestly don't think our selfish society today would allow government enforced cutbacks on our consumption without all Hell breaking loose.  And it doesn't help that many people don't even wish to do so voluntarily.  We're in a very sad state. 

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on July 21, 2013 at 12:47pm

Yes, welcome indeed, John Kennedy Opiyo.


Randall, I bristle too when an otherwise resonant passage suddenly slips in theism. My tolerance for theism is very very low. I even react negatively when I see atheists here wasting otherwise productive minds discussing nuances of theistic doctrine.


Yes, Joan, a wider, longer perception of events is what I need, along with enjoyment of fluttering fledglings on shrubs. I appreciate Albert Ellis, but I don’t think fear of rejection keeps people in long term relationships. We have an instinctive need for other people.


Ian, I enjoy neon lights, and find it easy to ignore the commercial messages for the color and luminosity.

Comment by booklover on July 21, 2013 at 12:33pm

Clever and so funny!

Comment by booklover on July 21, 2013 at 12:33pm

Glad you liked the annoyed cat Ruth!  Don't worry, no one judges you here.  We just care about you because you are our good friend.

Our first cat we had to have put to sleep years ago was named Jo.  I didn't know that in the middle of the night his blood-pressure had gotten so high that it detached his retinas, and he was blind.  How scared he must have been all night!  I found him downstairs hiding under a table.  It still makes me sick that I didn't know, and he spent his last night alone and scared.  After they put him to sleep at the vet, I was crying so hard I could barely write the check. :(

I'm so glad we have each other here to talk to.  I love cat-lovers! :)

Comment by Ian Mason on July 21, 2013 at 11:48am

Welcome, John Kennedy Opiyo. Enjoy yourself here and be sure that you have the support of good, kind people.

Felaine, loosing a pet is hard. Feel free to vent, We understand and feel with you.

Joan, I wouldn't want to be without the benefits of modern society but we really do need to learn responsibility. Life wouldn't be so hard without, for example, huge neon advertising signs. I reflect sometimes on the root of the word "luxury", from the Greek "lux" meaning light. There were times when light was a luxury for 90% of people. Shouldn't go back to those times but a little moderation would benefit here in the over-consuming West. We could learn to appreciate the darkness/night but of course without "god" coming into it.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 21, 2013 at 11:31am
Randall, The night sky, diversity of flora, fauna, and elements, opportunity, and possibilities all reside in the perception of the individual and require no god to make them magnificent and preferable. To refer to nature and god in the same paragraph reveals more about the writer than about the nature of these things. Personally, I think referring to god creates a dumbing down of society. Ya, I am pissed when I read such drivel as well.
Comment by Loren Miller on July 21, 2013 at 9:03am

You're not the only one to be pissed off by Bogard's presumption, Randall.  May I heartily recommend you write NatGeo and register a bit of indignation with them?  Somehow, people need to understand that awe and wonder need not be coupled to some imagined super-being, that the beauty of this reality stands amazingly well all on its own.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 21, 2013 at 8:16am
6:00 AM, 58 degrees F, and I am headed to the garden until the heat drives me in for the day. Mosquitoes keep me inside in the late afternoon, so I have 5-6 hours of wallowing in the pure pleasure of plants, birds, squirrels, and a new visitor, a Siamese cat intent on catching birds. I hope my fences around the feeding stations protect my little friends. The fledglings sit on wires or shrubs, fluttering their wings, mouth wide open waiting for their parents to provide food. Bird-parents are not yet at the time when they fly away in the presence of a fluttering offspring.
Ruth, what a nice comment to read, your appreciation for balance. It seems I have a wider, longer perception of events and that moderates the present messes we experience. I believe most problems, conflicts, and chaos are opportunities for solutions and my job is to find ways to make life better.

"People could rationally decide that prolonged relationships take up too much time and effort and that they'd much rather do other kinds of things. But most people are afraid of rejection."
~ Albert Ellis
Comment by Randall Smith on July 21, 2013 at 7:46am

Is there no escape? From Bright Nights, Big Problems, a National Geographic article by Paul Bogard, he writes, "Most of us have lost this opportunity to be awed at the sight (night sky), to feel similarly inspired to create, to change our lives, to gain a greater understanding of our God."  I don't know about you, but I bristle when I read that. Perhaps he meant nothing by saying "our God". Still, was it necessary?

 

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