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Seth Andrews' Rebuttal to "10 Women Christian Men Shouldn't Marry" (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Jan 22. 13 Replies

It seems as though some numb-nuts New York pastor by the name of Stephen Kim has written two marriage advice pieces for christian men and women.  Not surprisingly, his suggestions come straight out of his never-fail magic book.  Seth Andrews of The…Continue

Tags: advice, marriage, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Stephen Kim

Living in the Answers

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Patricia Jan 18. 13 Replies

I am weary of those who declare they understand all the answers to the creation of the universe and Earth. They claim they know the answers to the questions of life, meaning, death, and the afterlife. Those with all the answer speak with confidence,…Continue

Tags: confidence, education, government, family, afterlife

Twin terrorists caught

Started by Patricia. Last reply by Patricia Jan 11. 7 Replies

Canada: twin terrorists caught before going to Mideast Saturday, January 10, 2015 By Martin Barillas L-R: Carlos and Ashton Larmond The Royal Canadian Mounted Police arrested and charged a pair of 24-year-old identical twin brothers on…Continue

Betty Bowers Best of 2014

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Jan 4. 33 Replies

Happy New Year, everyone!  Now that we're off on another 365-day stint of sniping at believers, leave it to America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, to sum up the year past from her holier-than-EVERYBODY point of view! Have You had YOUR Betty today?!?Continue

Tags: 2014, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Christmas: Behind the Curtain (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by booklover Dec 28, 2014. 23 Replies

Well, it's that time of year again.  Time to gird our loins, put on our battle armor and join the (dah-dah DAAAAAH!) WAR AGAINST CHRISTMAS!!! [groan!] Yeah, most of us have heard that crap before, probably too many times, in fact, how atheists are…Continue

Tags: Christmas, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Seth Andrews - The Copycats: How Christianity Steals The Best Ideas

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Dec 24, 2014. 11 Replies

Many of us have observed or learned how christianity shamelessly borrows from other sources to bolster its position and show off its supposed wonderfulness.  Well, Seth Andrews of The Thinking Atheist podcast has compiled some of the more modern-day…Continue

Tags: steal, borrow, copycat, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

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Comment by Joan Denoo on January 31, 2014 at 4:51pm

Mindy, let's do a little brainstorming here. Ways art can be used to financially support one:

Community art projects to replace graffiti with local children's art; 

Consult with clients about home decorations, clothing choices, color combinations, styles;

Write a children's book and use art work to illustrate it;

Do the artwork for an author; 

Arts and crafts exhibits take in local artists and craftspeople;

Write a grant to fund a community development plan to improve blighted areas;

Work to become an art's commissioner on municipal projects; 

Set up an arts web page where other artists can share ideas; 

Do animal portraits of the pets for wealthy people; 

Do summer art projects with camps or common gatherings; 

Create winter art projects with families; 

I surely haven't exhausted the options. Keep adding to it if a light goes off in any ones heads.

I want you to meet a very special woman who lives in Harrison, Idaho. She is a genius at color, form, texture and glass.  She is a struggling artist trying to make a living and about six years ago came very close to losing a foot because of cancer. She is on Facebook and a real delight. 

Rebecca York, these are just two examples you will find on her Facebook page. This is all done with glass. I have been to one of her shows and she is fantastic. she is in pain, somewhat disabled by her foot, bright as a ray of sunshine, and loves life. She, too, has bouts of depression. 

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 31, 2014 at 4:22pm

sk8eycat, how horrible! It is being out of control that is so distressing to me! I want my life neat and tidy, with all the bells and whistles of the good life. Getting used to the new normal challenges us to use all our resources to rise above the messes our bodies create and get on with pure, unadulterated joy of living. 

I am sorry to learn of your morning episode and hope you feel healthy now. Nothing like doing a major clean up to get one's mind off the trials and tribulations of the world. 

Your are a super survivor turned thriver, sk8eycat. You turn life into laughter.

I would hate to be a pharmacist in this age, or a doctor, for that matter. It seems all the bright men went into finance and made fortunes - some lost them faster than they made them. The women go into medicine at a time of insurance turmoil; they not only have to fight health issues, they have to fight insurance companies as well.   

One has to be a Pollyanna to find the silver lining in the cloud out of all the turmoil, but it is worth the effort. Well, for me it is discovering my three children have their feet firmly planted on the ground and their heads are working as a wise adult would. My grandchildren seem to  be developing a strong sense of independence and a few are at the phase of knowing more about life than their parents or I do. They'll get over it. Life has a way of knocking cocky self-assurance into productive interdependence.  My great-grandchildren are at that full-of-wonder stage of discovering everything. 

So, all in all, life is worth hanging around and participating in. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 31, 2014 at 3:56pm

Patricia, our friends here at A/N have learned so much from you. Reading your experiences helps me to face the reality of being overwhelmed by a dreadful event and not being alone. Those who do not suffer the health issues offer most empathic support and willingly tolerate our tales of wo. They give comfort to those impacted, and gain insight into what helps and what doesn't. Don't pray for me is a biggie. 

I am sorry to know you have so many health problems and just hope better days lie ahead for you. In the meantime, your humor keeps it all in perspective. These health problems are real, deluding ourselves or denying the facts has no useful ends. We might as well face what is and get on with living a rich, fulfilling life in the ways each one finds to do that. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 31, 2014 at 2:55pm

Wow!  So many of you peeps have major health issues that I don't think I could put-up with, that I'm often embarrassed to mention my relatively minor ones.

Comment by booklover on January 31, 2014 at 2:31pm
I don't know what my daughter will do with her degree, but I don't think she expects to sell her art to make a living. Her absolute favorite job is only one week a year when she's an art camp counselor at the University she's trying to transfer to, working for her high school art teacher who runs the program. It's for high school kids. She was a camper, and then got invited to be a counselor. She LOVES IT! Too bad it's only one week a year! This year she gets to co- teach a class. She's so excited.
She doesn't want to be an art teacher in a school, but hopefully she will be creative (ha!) with her degree! :)
Comment by Idaho Spud on January 31, 2014 at 2:26pm

Thanks Joan.  I do have a native talent or two, but I've not put them to use near as much as I would have liked to.  I never considered that communication was one of them, so I suspect you're being a little too kind. :)

Comment by sk8eycat on January 31, 2014 at 2:23pm

OMG, Joan!  I exploded this morning, but I have sort of been expecting it, and dreading it...so I was in my bedroom, which is closest to the bathroom door, and I made it all the way inside and almost sat down....  cleaning clothes and floor for the rest of the morning. 

My Doctor wants me off the Tylenol & Codeine #4 that I've been taking for the past year or two.  So I have been cutting back slowly for the past 2 weeks, and hit zero yesterday.  I know what coming off codeine can do because there have been similar events before when I've stopped taking it, but never this violent. 

OR.... You didn't send it down south with the little rainstorm we had last night, did you?  (First rain in 2 MONTHS!  Thank Whatever!)

I don't think weather systems travel that quickly, do they?

The other good news this week was that the pharmacy that I have dealt with for decades closed Monday because the pharmacist and 2 assistants had their licenses revoked...maybe forever...by the State Board.  This is guilt by contamination, IMO.  They filled a prescription for a 20-something patient who OD'd on whatever it was, and died.  I don't know if it was a deliberate or accidental OD, and I don't care.  Is a pharmacist supposed to be able to forecast the future?

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 31, 2014 at 2:05pm

Spud, how often do we hear, "You can't make a living doing THAT!" Whatever "that" is. Joseph Campbell put a lie to that statement. he said, "Follow your bliss!" People who are clever, creative, imaginative, visionary, can dream up the most creative ways to put their native skills to work. 

I hope you discovered your native talent and have been able to make it work for you. You have great insights and communicate them beautifully to us. Your talents exist and have value to a larger community. 

Your enthusiasm for gardening excites others! Does the time just fly by when you are tending to one task or another? 

A friend of mine in Colorado loves gardening so she went to the school and suggested making a garden with the children. The administrators took to the idea and helped her find financial support for the equipment. She had fun, so did the kids, and they had a harvest feast inviting family and friends to participate and celebrate.

Garden of eatin'

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 31, 2014 at 1:50pm

Spud, thank you for empathizing with me and sharing your story. Being a shy person didn't help you feel any better; I hope you can laugh now about your episode. 

This explosive experience is not unusual. During chemo I had them all the time. So, I stayed home and in fact, slep through most of it. I often had to get out of bed, clean myself up, wash the linens, floor and bathroom. It was just part of the protocol.

Yesterdays came totally out of the blue. I had no warning, no rumbles in my tummy or anything. Just  

No pain, no discomfort, no warning. Just BOOM!

Just part of the protocol of cancer treatment. It all goes into my memory file and one day I will laugh without turning red. I was able to laugh yesterday but felt so horribly out of control. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 31, 2014 at 12:23pm

Mindy, I don't care much for art, and have always thought it would be difficult to make a living wage unless one was extremely talented.  

However, I too think a person should be allowed to do what they enjoy.

 

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