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Surreal, I haz it

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by booklover Apr 14. 75 Replies

Surreal, not just found in art.Continue

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Poem - "Oh, Wait..."

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Luara Apr 11. 7 Replies

Before you ask, no, I didn't write this.  I discovered it in a comment on a Discovermagazine.com piece which…Continue

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Curious: Has anyone read the novel "Christian Nation"?

Started by Brent Feeney. Last reply by Plinius Apr 10. 11 Replies

So I've been thinking about this some lately, and I wanted to see what your thoughts were:I read a novel last fall that was making the rounds of Atheist blogs and what not called "Christian Nation", which is part alternative history and part…Continue

Stop the Religious Right. Four Steps You Can Take, Sean Faircloth.

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 9. 2 Replies

Thanks to Grinning Cat via Loren Miller led me to this additional video by Sean Faircloth. He provides positive and powerful examples of thinking and acting. Continue

Science, Atheism & the Joyful Life -- by Sean Faircloth, Richard Dawkins Foundation

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 9. 6 Replies

Some speeches by atheists are factual and practical, dealing with the nuts and bolts of reality.  Some are diatribes against the superstitions we seek to overcome, pointing out the man behind the curtain and the fallacies and snake oil he tries to…Continue

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Bedtime Bible Stories (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller Apr 8. 0 Replies

Uh, oh!  America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, is at it again, THIS time with bedtime stories!  Somehow with her retelling of some of the classics, I'm dubious that her versions would go over with the Brothers Grimm or Hans Christian Anderson,…Continue

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Comment by Steph S. on May 2, 2013 at 5:21pm

Comment by sk8eycat on May 2, 2013 at 11:58am

Please excuse all the typos in that last post. There's some rather expensive plumbing work going on out in the patio (replacing a broken pipeline), and it's freaking me out a bit.

I NEVER wanted to be a homeowner. 

Comment by sk8eycat on May 2, 2013 at 11:52am

Joan, you are the LAST person in here that I would call "hard-hearted"!

I have dumped a few basically nice friends in the last 40 years because they tried to drag me "back into the fold" in one way or another.  they were genuinely worried about the state of my non-existent soul, but I just couldn't hack what felt like nagging to me.  I finally just stopped returning phone calls, and when one came no my door one Sunday AM, I just blurted "What part of 'NO' don't you understand?" And quietly shut the door.  It was rude, but it worked.

Sometimes you just have to offend them to get them to quit bugging you.  If they want to discuss beliefs in a friendly way, will listen politely to my/your side of things, and don't proselytize, that's fine. They have to understand that faith in the invisible, unprovable, incredible isn't something one can turn on or off like a light.  I don't believe anymore because I can't. Simple as that.

I have also dumped a formerly close friend, not because of religion but because she's become completely racist, and I can't stand that, either.  I think she's reverting to her upbringing in the Deep South as she gets older.  *shudders*

So, my friend, we deal with truth, not wishful thinking, and the truth is that you and I know we don't have all that much time left... nobody knows exactly how much...but why should we waste it on people that make us uncomfortable?  That isn't hard-heaarted IMO, it's practical.  ;>)

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 2, 2013 at 11:19am
Tom, I understand your point about Dennett not finding a way to politely state his point of view. I share Dennett's value that religion causes more pain and suffering and is not made up by the good that it does. It is the dogma that I/he find so revolting and needing to be articulated out loud.
A very sweet neighbor of mine is a devout believer; I don't want to offend her, however, I do want her to hear my beliefs. If she is offended and if I lose her as a friend, What is, is. Maintaining a relationship or a friendship just doesn't matter that much to me. Guess I am hard hearted, even as I do hear the cries of the world caused by religious beliefs.
Comment by Joan Denoo on May 2, 2013 at 11:17am
Tom, I understand your point about Dennett not finding a way to politely state his point of view. I share Dennett's value that religion causes more pain and suffering and is not made up by the good that it does. It is the dogma that I/he find so revolting and needing to be articulated out loud.
A very sweet neighbor of mine is a devout believer; I don't want to offend her, however, I do want her to hear my beliefs. If she is offended and if I lose her as a friend, What is, is. Maintaining a relationship or a friendship just doesn't matter that much to me. Guess I am hard hearted, even as I do hear the cries of the world caused by religious beliefs.
Comment by Steph S. on May 2, 2013 at 10:35am

Comment by booklover on May 2, 2013 at 8:28am

LOL Ruth!  Love the church mice cartoon! :)

Comment by booklover on May 2, 2013 at 8:25am

Joan, Steph's definition of hump-day is correct.  Over the hump, and the rest of the work week is downhill! :)

Comment by booklover on May 2, 2013 at 8:23am

I very much agree Joan!  I don't really know them personally, except maybe to say hello to, but they wouldn't associate with a heathen like me anyway! lol.  I did look at her FB page, and she is very proud to have had 10!  I guess the husband's father has told them over and over to stop having children they can't afford, but it falls on deaf ears.  I'm sure they are proud to be following the bibles command to populate the Earth.  Too bad the dumb thing doesn't say when enough is enough!

Comment by Plinius on May 2, 2013 at 4:20am

And menopause is a blessing, thanks mother nature! Some ten years before that, I was at last old and ugly enough that men could talk to me without being distracted by thinking about seks with me: what a relief! I could talk to them and sometimes they even understood me...

 

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