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Poem - "Oh, Wait..."

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Luara Apr 11. 7 Replies

Before you ask, no, I didn't write this.  I discovered it in a comment on a Discovermagazine.com piece which…Continue

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Curious: Has anyone read the novel "Christian Nation"?

Started by Brent Feeney. Last reply by Plinius Apr 10. 11 Replies

So I've been thinking about this some lately, and I wanted to see what your thoughts were:I read a novel last fall that was making the rounds of Atheist blogs and what not called "Christian Nation", which is part alternative history and part…Continue

Stop the Religious Right. Four Steps You Can Take, Sean Faircloth.

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Thanks to Grinning Cat via Loren Miller led me to this additional video by Sean Faircloth. He provides positive and powerful examples of thinking and acting. Continue

Science, Atheism & the Joyful Life -- by Sean Faircloth, Richard Dawkins Foundation

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 9. 6 Replies

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Bedtime Bible Stories (Betty Bowers)

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Comment by Patricia on May 1, 2013 at 3:02pm

Brian Cox on his days as a rocker......

http://youtu.be/buL6ATRHFqk

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 1, 2013 at 2:51pm
It appears my favorite physicist, Brian Cox, plays or played keyboard in Labour's favourite band, D:Ream. I Googled those names and find nothing. Anyone from here know how to listen to Brian on keyboard?
By the way, I encourage you to watch his "Wonders of Life series. He acknowledges the role religion played in history and how it is necessary and positive to replace the information part with science. I doubt he would deny people the comfort they receive from prayer and belief in god, but quite frankly, I don't know how a scientist can be a believer in delusions. He does not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqJxOWzr88Q&feature=share&li...
Comment by Sidney M. Gonzalez on May 1, 2013 at 2:49pm

Joan, why should anyone care about other people’s illusions? And what method does Dennett use to determine that complete strangers, people he, you and me, don’t know have dedicated their lives to an illusion; an illusion about what?

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 1, 2013 at 2:34pm

Carl, you go in the direction of thought that works for me:

"but studies show that people who are more educated, monetarily viable, and less religious have less children.  It also helps if you don't have government trying to shut down women's health care clinics and denying access to birth control, as is the case in the US A particularly strong effort for birth control needs to take place in poorer communities and in 'third world' countries. "

Education is definitely part of the answer and the challenge is to find ways that do not dictate. You are correct about keeping open and safe all women's health care clinics and promoting family planning. 

Freethinkers, like herding cats, may not work, however, there may be an answer through promotion of critical thinking as a societal good. 

When I was in China, Chinese women wanted family planning and they have a very good contraception program ... short of killing live births, which they do. That goes too far for my value system. Women want family planning and men want sex. Now, how do we resolve that dilemma? 

Comment by Ian Mason on May 1, 2013 at 2:26pm

Agreed, Chris. The tendency in Denmark is that the children/grandchildren of immigrants (the majority from Turkey) are becoming intergrated in lifestyle and only nominally muslim.

Large families are mostly the result of high infant mortality and no reliable pensions or social security for the vast majority. As societies develop, numbers become more stable.

Immigration/emmigration: seen the news from Bangladesh? Do you wonder people want to get out? How far would YOU go to improve your family's  life?

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 1, 2013 at 2:26pm

Chris, I like your option. I wonder if there are other things we can do? Maybe educate people of the role of nature's processes to create a healthy culture. I don't like mono-cultures either, but I don't like breeding colonies, whether Christian, Muslim or whaever. Educating parents to question authority ... ops that smells of fascism. Well, I'll have to think about this one. 

Comment by Patricia on May 1, 2013 at 2:25pm

Outbreeding is most certainly not the answer, but I doubt anyone would be able or allowed to ''get to'' their children. I'm just glad I won't be here 50 years or so from now.

Comment by Plinius on May 1, 2013 at 2:16pm

Then what would you do, outbreed them? The best I can think of is contact their children and make them think. And refusing immigration doesn't help either, the young are thrown into the world, in this country or another. Here is better of course, then you can help them with their education and the second-generation immigrants have fewer children than their parents. More immigrants lessens the religious pressure of the xtian fundies. If there's one thing I don't like, it's a monoculture, so put on the mixer... 

Comment by Patricia on May 1, 2013 at 11:44am

The trouble is.......the muslims are taking over everything by huge birth numbers......the more ignorant & uneducated, like the 3rd world countries, reproduce like rabbits. Then they expand, with their sob stories, into all of our countries taking our resources & insisting we become them or die. Controlling our population won't help this unless we start refusing so much immigration, but I think it's too late & I don't hold much hope for the future generations unless they clue in about religious bullshit......of course I won't be holding my breath for that.

Comment by Steph S. on May 1, 2013 at 10:49am

I made this lolcat for the group!

Hope you all are having a good day.

 

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