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Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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Seth Andrews' Rebuttal to "10 Women Christian Men Shouldn't Marry" (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Jan 22. 13 Replies

It seems as though some numb-nuts New York pastor by the name of Stephen Kim has written two marriage advice pieces for christian men and women.  Not surprisingly, his suggestions come straight out of his never-fail magic book.  Seth Andrews of The…Continue

Tags: advice, marriage, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Stephen Kim

Living in the Answers

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Patricia Jan 18. 13 Replies

I am weary of those who declare they understand all the answers to the creation of the universe and Earth. They claim they know the answers to the questions of life, meaning, death, and the afterlife. Those with all the answer speak with confidence,…Continue

Tags: confidence, education, government, family, afterlife

Twin terrorists caught

Started by Patricia. Last reply by Patricia Jan 11. 7 Replies

Canada: twin terrorists caught before going to Mideast Saturday, January 10, 2015 By Martin Barillas L-R: Carlos and Ashton Larmond The Royal Canadian Mounted Police arrested and charged a pair of 24-year-old identical twin brothers on…Continue

Betty Bowers Best of 2014

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Jan 4. 33 Replies

Happy New Year, everyone!  Now that we're off on another 365-day stint of sniping at believers, leave it to America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers, to sum up the year past from her holier-than-EVERYBODY point of view! Have You had YOUR Betty today?!?Continue

Tags: 2014, America's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

Christmas: Behind the Curtain (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by booklover Dec 28, 2014. 23 Replies

Well, it's that time of year again.  Time to gird our loins, put on our battle armor and join the (dah-dah DAAAAAH!) WAR AGAINST CHRISTMAS!!! [groan!] Yeah, most of us have heard that crap before, probably too many times, in fact, how atheists are…Continue

Tags: Christmas, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Seth Andrews - The Copycats: How Christianity Steals The Best Ideas

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Dec 24, 2014. 11 Replies

Many of us have observed or learned how christianity shamelessly borrows from other sources to bolster its position and show off its supposed wonderfulness.  Well, Seth Andrews of The Thinking Atheist podcast has compiled some of the more modern-day…Continue

Tags: steal, borrow, copycat, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

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Comment by Plinius on May 9, 2014 at 8:59am

Beautiful picture, Randall, thanks. And get better soon, FA!

Comment by Randall Smith on May 9, 2014 at 7:59am

Friends, the sun WILL rise again to brighten your days!

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 9, 2014 at 2:53am

Yes, it appears this has been a bad week for several of us.  I missed two days of work because I wasn't feeling well.  I spent most of this week sleeping and hardly got anything done that I wanted to. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 9, 2014 at 2:24am

Sk8eycat, we have Peapod here in the Chicago area.  It's an online grocery and delivery service.  I've never used it but many times have sworn that I was going to sign up for it.  I imagine there must be a similar service in a city the size of L.A.  It may be cheaper to have your groceries delivered rather than paying for a cab.  Just a thought.

Comment by Plinius on May 9, 2014 at 2:07am

Difficult days for Ruth, Ian and Mindy. I had one of those days yesterday. We had a meeting about and with brother-in-law, plus a therapist, a psychologist, etc. He has been a model patient till last week when he picked a quarrel with a nurse.... about nothing of course, but he is also an Asperger patient. So when everyone wanted to discuss and organize things, brother-in-law was screaming murder and repeating every unimportant detail in a voice that could be heard in the whole building. So today I am dizzy with a blinding headache. It depresses me very much, having to care for someone to stubborn to see what needs to be done. 

My story - who's next? ;-S

Comment by Ian Mason on May 9, 2014 at 12:58am

Rant away, dear friends. It's good to get those feelings out and know that others understand. I hope you are ready to get back into the fray. My poor sister-in-law in England, who isn't a well woman to start with, has been driven close to distraction by the pure incometence she's had to battle with r.e. my mother. Private care-home, public social services, doctors......no-one seem to care about doing a decent job except those at the basic, hands-on carer level. With that kind of work (the same job I have) when the shit hits the floor (literally) there's only you to clean it up. No telephone, computer or paperwork to hide behind.

Hugs, understanding and good wishes to all.

Comment by sk8eycat on May 8, 2014 at 11:59pm

I have only Medicareless parts A and B...NO Rx insurance (Part D). When that first went into effect, my doctor warned me that it was a scam to benefit the pharmaceutical and insurance companies, NOT the patient.  Pharmaceutical companies are required to provide prescribed meds to low-income patients at no cost, and no questions asked, except one's total annual household income.  My sister and I are so far below the poverty level that we're invisible...so I've been getting my diabetes meds from Pfiser for free for 14 years. 

And we can get proper groceries once a month from a local aid center (NOT the county "food bank," that hands out mostly carbohydrates and sugary cereals)...IF  I can get a ride, and help carrying the bags.

I just feel guilty asking friends for a ride...but I became frightened of driving my huge old car a few years ago, so I sold it to a junker...and now I beg rides, or take taxis.  (It cost me $40 ...including tips...to go to my doctor today.)

The good news is that my A1c has been perfect for more than a year...the bad news is that I've gained 12 lbs since February.  I don't know how I did that...haven't changed my diet at all.

And that's my rant for now.  I need to share some hugs with you all...sounds like we need them.

{{{{{EVERYONE!}}}}}

Thank you.  <3

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 8, 2014 at 11:45pm

Geez, Ruth.  I know exactly how you feel.  I think we've all had to put up with that type of treatment, and not just from he medical industry.  I hope your situation finally gets resolved to your satisfaction.  In the mean time. if you need to rant, you know we're here for you.  

Mindy, my grocery budget certainly seems to get less bang for my buck these days as well.  I go to the store, spend a wad of money, and when I get home, it seems like I hardly have anything to show for it.  I don't have a car, so thankfully the grocery store is basically right around the corner.  I'm there several times a week buying what I can walk home with.  I consciously try really hard not to buy frivolously since a large portion of my food bill is spent eating out while traveling, which is obviously more expensive.

I hope Sunday morning you'll once again be attending services at The Church of the Internet Provider.   

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on May 8, 2014 at 10:14pm
... people can't , or don't, do their jobs right...

That describes my morning, booklover. I was on the phone for the fifth time to Highmark Blue Shield, trying to get them to send my endocrinologist a form, so she can appeal a drug exclusion. The first three forms they claimed they'd faxed "disappeared". This process has involved two dozen calls over three weeks, not counting busy signals, hang-ups when on hold, or "out to lunch" responses.

Today I learned that Blue Shield's policy is to fax a blank form to one of the doctor's offices. Like many specialists, she has three or four offices, which are each shared with five or so other doctors. So they fax a blank form with no cover letter to a random office, and the patient gets lost in the cracks. Without the doctor's name or the patient's name, or the name of the denied drug, there could be thousands of possibilities. Their phone agents sound so helpful and cheery, which in retrospect seems a cruel irony.

This morning the doctor's staff finally found the third form, and claimed they can't use a blank form. "No we can't fill it out." Claimed they needed a denial letter. Eventually I got Blue Shield to call them. No guarantee that worked. After all of this, they'll probably reject the appeal.

I was thinking about how the right wing is so against government bureaucracy. But all of this bureaucracy was caused by private companies, quite deliberately. Every time I called Blue Shield I was forced to re-verify every single identifying datum in my file, even if I'd just talked to someone there two minutes ago. And the damned phone tree had four nested levels, at least two of which required re-verifying which button you'd just pushed, which made half a dozen mechanical back and forth transactions till you'd get a phone line to a human being, who'd insist on your going over every fact in your file.

Felt like my head would explode by the end.

Thanks for listening to my rant.

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Comment by booklover on May 8, 2014 at 9:20pm
Long, hot day here. Internet is out. They can't come until Sunday a.m.. I'm on my iPhone. More errands tomorrow because people can't , or don't, do their jobs right. Sorry, just a frustrating day, no big deal in the grand scheme of things! I went grocery shopping and spent $150., and the fridge still looks empty! Prices are really going up on a lot of things. I need to get more creative in my meal- planning! My Mom and I are going out for lunch tomorrow, so I'm looking forward to that! Have a good day tomorrow friends! :)
 

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