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Surreal, I haz it

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 21. 81 Replies

Surreal, not just found in art.Continue

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Let's not define ourselves or others by our worst behaviors

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Dominique Lutz Apr 16. 6 Replies

My take on the recent melt down at Hang With Friends, of which I missed part, is that some of us were tripped up by a habit of thought. It's something we learn growing up, and use without realizing how much pain it can generate -  failing to…Continue

Tags: dispute at Hang With Friends

The FLDS Cult Is Unraveling

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Mar 29. 3 Replies

The FLDS Cult Is Unraveling"the internet is a lifeline for people trapped in the most restrictive and stifling forms of…Continue

Tags: Warren Jeff, internet, FLDS

Ode to Yahweh (Non Stamp Collector & 43alley)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 24. 1 Reply

Ages ago (five or six years, I guess it is) when I first started recognizing my own atheism, one of the first atheist YouTubers I ran onto was Non Stamp Collector.  His handiwork wasn't up to Disney's standards, nor even Hanna-Barbera, but his wit…Continue

Tags: Yahweh, YouTube, 43alley, Non Stamp Collector

Oregon Field Guide - Lamprey Decline

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Mar 15. 3 Replies

Oregon Field Guide - Lamprey Decline"Populations of Eel-like lamprey have suddenly plummeted since the year 2000 in the Columbia Basin, surprising…Continue

Richard Dawkins, Growing Up in the Universe

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Mar 14. 2 Replies

Here is an oldie, the young Richard Dawkins teaching kids about the universe. I especially like the one demonstrating how the eye evolved. This should answer those who believe it was impossible to evolve an eye. Continue

Tags: universe, teaching, Dawkins, Richard

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Comment by sk8eycat on May 9, 2014 at 10:35am

Mindy, I've been a member of the Church of the Innersprings for decades.  Love it!  Now, if I could just teach the cats to bring me breakfast in bed (but NOT kibble!  I want waffles with fresh strawberries, and hot tea!  Perhaps some chai...)

Comment by Plinius on May 9, 2014 at 8:59am

Beautiful picture, Randall, thanks. And get better soon, FA!

Comment by Randall Smith on May 9, 2014 at 7:59am

Friends, the sun WILL rise again to brighten your days!

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 9, 2014 at 2:53am

Yes, it appears this has been a bad week for several of us.  I missed two days of work because I wasn't feeling well.  I spent most of this week sleeping and hardly got anything done that I wanted to. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 9, 2014 at 2:24am

Sk8eycat, we have Peapod here in the Chicago area.  It's an online grocery and delivery service.  I've never used it but many times have sworn that I was going to sign up for it.  I imagine there must be a similar service in a city the size of L.A.  It may be cheaper to have your groceries delivered rather than paying for a cab.  Just a thought.

Comment by Plinius on May 9, 2014 at 2:07am

Difficult days for Ruth, Ian and Mindy. I had one of those days yesterday. We had a meeting about and with brother-in-law, plus a therapist, a psychologist, etc. He has been a model patient till last week when he picked a quarrel with a nurse.... about nothing of course, but he is also an Asperger patient. So when everyone wanted to discuss and organize things, brother-in-law was screaming murder and repeating every unimportant detail in a voice that could be heard in the whole building. So today I am dizzy with a blinding headache. It depresses me very much, having to care for someone to stubborn to see what needs to be done. 

My story - who's next? ;-S

Comment by Ian Mason on May 9, 2014 at 12:58am

Rant away, dear friends. It's good to get those feelings out and know that others understand. I hope you are ready to get back into the fray. My poor sister-in-law in England, who isn't a well woman to start with, has been driven close to distraction by the pure incometence she's had to battle with r.e. my mother. Private care-home, public social services, doctors......no-one seem to care about doing a decent job except those at the basic, hands-on carer level. With that kind of work (the same job I have) when the shit hits the floor (literally) there's only you to clean it up. No telephone, computer or paperwork to hide behind.

Hugs, understanding and good wishes to all.

Comment by sk8eycat on May 8, 2014 at 11:59pm

I have only Medicareless parts A and B...NO Rx insurance (Part D). When that first went into effect, my doctor warned me that it was a scam to benefit the pharmaceutical and insurance companies, NOT the patient.  Pharmaceutical companies are required to provide prescribed meds to low-income patients at no cost, and no questions asked, except one's total annual household income.  My sister and I are so far below the poverty level that we're invisible...so I've been getting my diabetes meds from Pfiser for free for 14 years. 

And we can get proper groceries once a month from a local aid center (NOT the county "food bank," that hands out mostly carbohydrates and sugary cereals)...IF  I can get a ride, and help carrying the bags.

I just feel guilty asking friends for a ride...but I became frightened of driving my huge old car a few years ago, so I sold it to a junker...and now I beg rides, or take taxis.  (It cost me $40 ...including tips...to go to my doctor today.)

The good news is that my A1c has been perfect for more than a year...the bad news is that I've gained 12 lbs since February.  I don't know how I did that...haven't changed my diet at all.

And that's my rant for now.  I need to share some hugs with you all...sounds like we need them.

{{{{{EVERYONE!}}}}}

Thank you.  <3

Comment by The Flying Atheist on May 8, 2014 at 11:45pm

Geez, Ruth.  I know exactly how you feel.  I think we've all had to put up with that type of treatment, and not just from he medical industry.  I hope your situation finally gets resolved to your satisfaction.  In the mean time. if you need to rant, you know we're here for you.  

Mindy, my grocery budget certainly seems to get less bang for my buck these days as well.  I go to the store, spend a wad of money, and when I get home, it seems like I hardly have anything to show for it.  I don't have a car, so thankfully the grocery store is basically right around the corner.  I'm there several times a week buying what I can walk home with.  I consciously try really hard not to buy frivolously since a large portion of my food bill is spent eating out while traveling, which is obviously more expensive.

I hope Sunday morning you'll once again be attending services at The Church of the Internet Provider.   

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on May 8, 2014 at 10:14pm
... people can't , or don't, do their jobs right...

That describes my morning, booklover. I was on the phone for the fifth time to Highmark Blue Shield, trying to get them to send my endocrinologist a form, so she can appeal a drug exclusion. The first three forms they claimed they'd faxed "disappeared". This process has involved two dozen calls over three weeks, not counting busy signals, hang-ups when on hold, or "out to lunch" responses.

Today I learned that Blue Shield's policy is to fax a blank form to one of the doctor's offices. Like many specialists, she has three or four offices, which are each shared with five or so other doctors. So they fax a blank form with no cover letter to a random office, and the patient gets lost in the cracks. Without the doctor's name or the patient's name, or the name of the denied drug, there could be thousands of possibilities. Their phone agents sound so helpful and cheery, which in retrospect seems a cruel irony.

This morning the doctor's staff finally found the third form, and claimed they can't use a blank form. "No we can't fill it out." Claimed they needed a denial letter. Eventually I got Blue Shield to call them. No guarantee that worked. After all of this, they'll probably reject the appeal.

I was thinking about how the right wing is so against government bureaucracy. But all of this bureaucracy was caused by private companies, quite deliberately. Every time I called Blue Shield I was forced to re-verify every single identifying datum in my file, even if I'd just talked to someone there two minutes ago. And the damned phone tree had four nested levels, at least two of which required re-verifying which button you'd just pushed, which made half a dozen mechanical back and forth transactions till you'd get a phone line to a human being, who'd insist on your going over every fact in your file.

Felt like my head would explode by the end.

Thanks for listening to my rant.

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