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Comment by booklover on January 10, 2014 at 9:34am

Patricia, I vaguely remember that, but I don't remember what I had for lunch yesterday! lol.  2 of the meds I'm on have a side-effect of memory loss, and I don't know if that's why I forget a lot, or if it's just  me.  My daughter is on a med that causes it too, and she's hoping that's why she can't get through a college-level math course! lol.  I think it's just our family has no "math gene" though!!!

Comment by Patricia on January 9, 2014 at 9:16pm

The sleep cd's were discussed quite a lot a couple of months ago & I even mentioned about the ones for depression that were on ebay.

Comment by booklover on January 9, 2014 at 8:23pm
Carl, thanks for sharing. :) I also have/had anxiety and panic attacks and I'm on drugs for them. I don't know if my current symptoms are due to those, so Im happy to wear the monitor even if it's a pain! I'm glad your blood pressure meds have helped you! I've always had low blood pressure, but this Dr.'s visit, the bottom number was a little high. I really need to start exercising, but didn't want to start w/ out checking these symptoms out first!
Interesting about the cd's Patricia and Joan. I hadn't heard of them before.
Comment by Patricia on January 9, 2014 at 7:29pm

Yes thanks, FA, my days are much better, & so is my energy level. It's much less effort to force myself to do my normal daily things.

According to everything I've read about these cd's, I should hopefully be able to work up to the 7 to 9 hours the dr. wants me to get.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on January 9, 2014 at 7:13pm

Patricia, getting 4 or 5 hours of sleep is indeed a vast improvement.  I'm glad to hear the cd's are working for you.  I understand your apprehension of using drugs to help you sleep.  Getting that additional sleep certainly must make you feel better throughout the day.  Hopefully over time you'll be able to extend your sleep to longer periods.

Comment by Patricia on January 9, 2014 at 7:00pm

Thanks Joan, but have plenty of cd's already with more in my 'to purchase' list for variety, but of course can't buy them all at the same time.

Napping does not happen & I am home all the time other than going shopping for a couple of hours a couple of times a week. Opportunity is there, but it doesn't make me sleep & day time sleeping was never an issue before.

My optimal time for sleep used to be from about 4 or 5 a.m. until 10:30-11 a.m. but no more. I have always been a night person & made to feel very guilty about deliberately not going to bed at 'normal' times, but over the years got past it & slept at my own timetable.

After developing the fibromyalgia, & having cancer treatments, with 5 years of meds, sleep has been almost impossible so formal diagnosis of sleep deprivation was no surprise.

The cd's are working very well as I am sleeping for about 4 or 5 hours most times, & although it is broken sleep, I can go back to sleep, which wasn't happening before. Compared to the hour or two I've been living with for years, it's a big improvement!

My heart thing has even settled down a lot as well, so as long as I can sleep some with the cd's playing, so be it.

Yes, I've read the PAT information & printed some of it as well.  

Comment by The Flying Atheist on January 9, 2014 at 6:57pm

Mindy, I've had to wear a heart monitor a couple of times in the past.  Throughout the years (starting in my early 20's) I've had periods of tachycardia (fast heart rate).  In later years I experienced anxiety and occasional panic attacks.  Through it all, and after having stress tests and EKG's, it was extremely reassuring to learn that I have a normal, strong heart.  And starting on high blood-pressure medication a few years ago has pretty much eliminated any problems I was having. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 9, 2014 at 6:29pm

Patricia, I have spent much of the past year in bed, asleep and I just wish I could wrap up a package to send you. Are you able to nap? Even short naps, perhaps. I know it is the deep sleep you really need and napping won't do it. However, if that helps then go for it. 

Are you able to stay home to take naps? I am so grateful that I am able to sleep during the day. And I have Cary who is an outstanding cook. Do you have such assistance. 

Jeez, I wish I could help you solve your sleep problems. Well, I can just say I care about you and hope all goes well for you. 

What Is Paroxysmal Atrial Tachycardia?

There are nine paragraphs of information here, if you haven't already found it. I looked to see treatments and I assume you have a good heart doctor.

I had irregular heart beats that were successfully treated with a pace maker. It doesn't seem to be the treatment for your condition.

Do you need help in finding more delta/theta wave sleep cd's? 

Comment by Patricia on January 9, 2014 at 5:57pm

I don't want drugs as I react badly to a lot of them, don't want to risk dependence, & they don't work a lot of the time anyway, which is why I'm using the delta/theta wave sleep cd's.

Comment by booklover on January 9, 2014 at 5:49pm
Joan, your words are not intrusive at all! I am grateful for your response. You are right!
Patricia, I'm glad you got a diagnosis. I'm sorry you have severe sleep-deprevation. That would be awful. I hope they can do something for it!

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