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Seth Andrews - The Copycats: How Christianity Steals The Best Ideas

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Soren Sagan yesterday. 9 Replies

Many of us have observed or learned how christianity shamelessly borrows from other sources to bolster its position and show off its supposed wonderfulness.  Well, Seth Andrews of The Thinking Atheist podcast has compiled some of the more modern-day…Continue

Tags: steal, borrow, copycat, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

Finding Your Roots

Started by Randall Smith. Last reply by Chris G on Tuesday. 9 Replies

I've been into genealogy for a long time. It's fun, especially with internet help, but increasingly frustrating. You see, I've hit "brick walls". And being a Smith doesn't make research any easier.Wouldn't you think I could find the death date and…Continue

Christmas: Behind the Curtain (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by sk8eycat Dec 12. 11 Replies

Well, it's that time of year again.  Time to gird our loins, put on our battle armor and join the (dah-dah DAAAAAH!) WAR AGAINST CHRISTMAS!!! [groan!] Yeah, most of us have heard that crap before, probably too many times, in fact, how atheists are…Continue

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Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by sk8eycat Nov 26. 41 Replies

This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

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Started by Randall Smith. Last reply by Grinning Cat Nov 24. 4 Replies

I'm not a news hound by any stretch, but I do like to stay informed about what's going on in the world. (I despise "local" news with all the reports of murders, robberies, fires, etc.)The national "evening" news shows really irritate me. I hate…Continue

Surreal, I haz it

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Comment by Joan Denoo on April 7, 2014 at 7:08pm

Spud, do you have opportunity to be with your nieces and nephews from time to time? The good news is, one day they will be grown and able to seek out other options, if they have an inkling there are others. Plant seeds when you can. 

All the neighbor kids spend a big part of their summers in my back yard with me. It was tough at first because two mormon families with large families, wouldn't let their kids come over because they know I am a non-believer. With all the other kids here, it became pretty hard for them to keep their kids away. The kids and I just enjoyed the garden and its critters and we didn't talk about beliefs, unless they asked me. I was honest with them about how I think, and I am sure they were questioned by their parents about our conversations. It worked out fine for me and the kids.

They are all growing up now and finding interests with their peers. I don't see them as much anymore. However, they do come by for a visit and "chin wag".  The next generation is still pretty young, just out of diapers, so I don't expect to see them here for another year or so. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 7, 2014 at 7:02pm

Joan, "When God was a Woman" sounds like an interesting historical book.

When I was a believer, I didn't think women were put-down by the mormon church, with the possible exception of polygamy.  However, now I see a lot of it.

I also agree with Arp that no one should be trained for a priesthood.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 7, 2014 at 6:58pm

Patricia, thank you for sharing your story. Thankfully, you didn't have to raise a whole bunch of kids; it is bad enough when you had to be the parent for your brother. Sadly, too many children have to parent their siblings with both mother and father working. That is too big a burden to place on a child. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 7, 2014 at 6:55pm

Arp, you make a very good point about no boy or girl should be trained for a priesthood. I had not thought about it in those terms. The real task of a mother and father is to raise each to be fully functioning as an adult, not as an adult who acts and thinks as a child. Every child needs that kind of training. 

Thanks for the feedback!

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 7, 2014 at 6:44pm

Glad you have some good news Mindy.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 7, 2014 at 6:42pm

Mindy, having the information about finding no cause for the pain at least tells you there are no neoplasms, or infections. Still, it doesn't define what causes his symptoms. You are correct, he is an adult and will make the decision that he figures out.  

As for anxiety or worry, don't forget they are worthless emotions, except to keep you alert to watch for things you need to see. In the meantime, be sure to develop a good relaxation routine. That doesn't happen by buying a book or tape. It happens by practicing, just like practicing a musical instrument. You have to train yourself to be able to play the Frederic Chopin's Scherzo No. 2 Op. 31

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 7, 2014 at 6:32pm

Arp, I believe you about not reading mainstream news. I have no TV, no papers or magazines delivered. I found that reporters do not get to the meat of issues and have become propaganda pieces to maintain and perpetuate the status quo. 

I do subscribe to many newsletters of interest to me and to some with which I do not agree. I like to keep up on the nonsense being pumped out on the internet, just so I can stay informed. 

This group of fine folks on AN are getting me to lighten up a bit and I read more of the funny stuff. I'm learning!

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 7, 2014 at 5:12pm

I'm often sad thinking of the children in my siblings families and their children's children.  They all continue to drink the mormon cook-aid in great quantities, wasting a lot of time as well as more than 10% of their gross income.

The worst family is my son-in-law's.  They are almost as bad as the Duggar family.  

They have religious pictures almost covering their walls, the children are restricted from playing with anyone except a very few that are as fundamentalist as they are, they are home-schooled, TV shows and movies are restricted to a very few G-rated ones, and they are taught to be greatly paranoid about sex.

Comment by booklover on April 7, 2014 at 5:07pm
Good news at the Orthopedist for my son? They can find nothing wrong that is causing the pain and swelling,so no surgery unless HE ever feels like it's getting worse or he can't stand it. He does NOT want the surgery now, and says he will take Aleve and use ice- packs. He's almost 20, so his decision.
Comment by Idaho Spud on April 7, 2014 at 4:42pm

Felaine, I've never heard of the Duggar family cult before.  The way those children are raised is very sad.

 

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