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Secular and Reclaimed Winter Holiday Songs

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This is an appropriate day of the year for this subject...What are some of your favorite winter holiday songs?It would be especially good to share powerful new secular lyrics to tunes that have become associated with Christmas.…Continue

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Aljam

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I'm not a news hound by any stretch, but I do like to stay informed about what's going on in the world. (I despise "local" news with all the reports of murders, robberies, fires, etc.)The national "evening" news shows really irritate me. I hate…Continue

Seth Andrews - The Copycats: How Christianity Steals The Best Ideas

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Many of us have observed or learned how christianity shamelessly borrows from other sources to bolster its position and show off its supposed wonderfulness.  Well, Seth Andrews of The Thinking Atheist podcast has compiled some of the more modern-day…Continue

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Granddaughters

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I've got three grandsons and I love them to death, but my youngest son and his wife had a baby girl in January and I haven't  right since. Granddaughter has me wrapped up like my grandsons never did. What is it about granddaughters? Her name is…Continue

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Comment by sk8eycat on March 20, 2014 at 2:34am

Well...JB wouldn't be so noticeable here.  Just another permanent adolescent among thousands of others. 

I wonder what would happen if he magically appeared in a fundamentalist Muslim country....naked.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on March 20, 2014 at 2:07am

Sk8eycat, perhaps you can make a deal with the Canadian government.  You move to Canada and Justin Bieber stays in Los Angeles (and can't be allowed to travel outside of L.A. county.) 

Comment by sk8eycat on March 20, 2014 at 1:42am

You mean, SHE moves out and I stay here?  NO WAY!  I couldn't do that; we moved here when she was an infant, and has never lived anywhere else.  I've had apartments (moved back in when I was out of work, broke, and our parents health was failing...and they needed a driver), PLUS I spent almost 5 years touring the US.  I've been around, Grace hasn't...she's never even had any kind of work outside the home...she's an Aspie.  No diagnosis but her behavior since infancy is typical of mild autism, or Asperger's syndrome.

Actually she has brought up the idea of moving into an assisted living-type building, although neither of us quite needs that much help. Yet.  And I don't know if such places accept pets.  We each have a cat...Freddie has become her personal buddy, and Pumpkin is mine, although he spends time with her, too.

The unused bedroom that I'd like to fill up is the master bedroom; I'd even accept a gay couple, if they're not too noisy about certain activities. 

Tee-hee!

Comment by sk8eycat on March 20, 2014 at 12:48am

Okay...the Sr.s apartment buildings I've checked out so far all have the same hairy-scary feature...3-level underground parking garages  So when a major quake happens what few "ground floor" apartments exist (most of the laundry and community rooms take up 75% of the ground floor space) are likely to fall into the parking garage, with 3 or 4  (or more) floors full of people on top of them.

NOT good.

The absodamnlutely safest type of building is a medium size one-story wood frame house...like mine.  We have an extra bedroom that I wish we could rent out, but it's against the local zoning laws to do that....the only other alternative is to find a rommie who will share the upkeep and utility expenses. 

How do a couple of elderly sisters find a compatible roommate? Advertize?  (I wouldn't trust something like CraigsList any farther than I could throw a roomful of Craigs.)  A younger gay man with a wicked sense of humor (atheist, of course...one JW in this house is all I can stand) would be ideal, and fun, and we could add him to our Living Trust so he could inherit the house when we're gone.  IF he'd want it.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 19, 2014 at 10:29pm

Mindy, I can understand your desire to keep the house in the family. My family has been like that. We keep places for generations. It is sweet to go back walk through the rooms of one's childhood. To live in a home in which one grew up would have a certain sense of continuity to it. It is one option. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 19, 2014 at 10:27pm

Felaine, several of my friends very happily left their homes to move into seniors-only apartment buildings. They are difficult to get into, and one has to plan a couple years ahead. None of them regretted their decision to sell and move. Also, living in earthquake territory, as you so, I would surely not want to live any higher than ground floor. 

My cousin and his wife were in Northridge and in the dark of night their stairwell fell and when they scrambled, they fell through the hole in the floor. He is a big, husky, farm-raised man and he described his terror as he was falling after being shaken out of bed. 

Comment by booklover on March 19, 2014 at 10:04pm
I would like to leave this house to our kids, since it's the only place they've ever lived (except when our daughter was away at college), but I don't know if that is something they would want. We will have to discuss it with them!
Comment by sk8eycat on March 19, 2014 at 9:06pm

I'm looking for a seniors-only apartment building where they base the rent on your (measly) income.  Most of them around here are full, with waiting lists. 

PLUS, if/when I have to leave this house, I don't EVER want to be close enough to drive by and see what the new owners do to the property.  Like build a Big Box house, and rip out all the trees.  That does seem to have slowed down around here because the McMansions that were built on spec in the past 5 years aren't selling.  Or they do sell, but not for "enough."

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 19, 2014 at 1:19pm

Carl, may I caution you about owning your own place. First of all, I very desperately wanted my own home, and it was a wise decisions because I bought on a down cycle and paid only $12,000 for it. There are no such buys any more. The housing market took off into a Boom and then a Bust that created disasters for many thoughtful families. 

We are at the end of this Bust period and a new bubble is already forming in the housing market. Be really careful that you do not get caught in an overpriced piece of property. You lose all liquidity when you own property. It is difficult to sell, and you can't eat it when another crash occurs. 

Remember that capitalism is based on Boom and Bust reasoning. That  is why the old bromide, "buy low, sell high" applies to anything one does. 

The old man of the late 1800s early 1900s predicted capitalism will have a Boom and Bust cycle every 60 years. Well, he was off on his timing, but correct on his predictions. It is easy to track Booms and Busts, just Google it, and you will find all kinds of information to help you see what part of the cycle we are in. 

Nikolai Kondratiev was shot by firing squad on the orders of Stalin in 1938 because he predicted the fall of communism. He also predicted the fall of socialism and capitalism.

Kondratieff predicted that under capitalism one generation will survive, with great suffering, through the Bust cycle, and the next generation will be told the stories, the next generation after that may hear the stories and say it will never happen again. It is that generation that lives in the Boom part of the cycle and makes political and economic decisions that lead to another Bust. 

Financial crisis of 2007–08

Kondratieff Waves and the Greater Depression of 2013 - 2020

Kondratieff has been replaced by a whipper snapper, R.N. Elliott and popularized by Robert Prechter. This theory asserts that crowd behavior ebbs and flows in clear trends. Based on this ebb and flow, Elliott identified a certain structure to price movements in the financial markets. The article serves as a basic introduction to Elliott Wave Theory.

Elliott Wave Basics

From what I have been reading a new bubble is already forming in the real estate market. Who knows how high it will rise or how low it will fall. I just caution you to think twice about owning your own place. 

For me, it means replacing my furnace at $5,000. My roof also needs replacing. I have lived here for 40 years on July 1, and many of the things I did to improved it all those years ago need to be replaced. 

Whatever you do, it is a crap shoot. I just want you to be aware of the risks and weigh them against the benefits and your ability to live up to the commitment you sign when you purchase your own place.

My best wishes go with you.  

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 19, 2014 at 12:19pm

Carl, I am so happy to learn of your concern for your expected little boy into the family. In my experience, and you didn't ask, but you know me, I will have my say, whether wanted or not. 

Circumcision has become a cultural thing, far beyond religion. It is like so many things we do that have become part of what I call ABCTDs of life: Attitudes, Beliefs, Customs, Traditions, and Values. They become institutionalized in society completely forgetting it was a device to separate "us" from "them". It is not necessary and not recommended by enlightened doctors and professionals. 

Good for you for being concerned, and for having a library of films you can use as part of your reasoning. 

As usual, my approach is honesty, with concrete reasoning to support your decision. Some do not like my directness, but to be perfectly frank, I see no benefit in pussyfooting around important topics. 

I know you to be a gentle person, and will not overwhelm her with your power, but will use carefully thought out reasons for your point of view. You will do an outstanding job of walking with her through this very important time in her life.

 

 

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